First you say its a stomp, then you say it isnt, now its back to being a stomp. You might as well start writing for mitt romney with all the flip flopping.
Since when does goku not need air to live?
And since when is immune to disease.
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You do know that Torune's bugs, along with both Magellan and Mayuri's poison don't need an open wound to take affect. Out of those three only Torune's bugs would be escapable. Mayuri's poison can be absorbed through the skin, same as Magellan's so neither of them need Goku to actually inhale it.
Mindset is brought up because the thread maker doesn't specify a particular state of mind that Goku is in. Therefore with CIS on, the chance for this version of Goku is indeed possible. Remember he's limited to only his base form.
Your power is sent back on yourself thats how it works. So i dont have to show you that.
Anybody with those on would die. Only reason aizen lived is brcause the hogyoku shielded him from it.
Also another way goku could lose is if kabuto and oro summon edo tensei. Goku would be fighting them forever and his energy is not unlimited hed use up all his energy and grow fatigued allowing an opening for a multitude of things to happen
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That would imply that Goku can instantly planet bust: he can't as demonstrated in the series when deflecting other planet busters.
Okay I'll give you the planet busting attacks working on Edo's only due to the BFR that would result from it. However Madara survived being flattened by a meteor and disintegration thanks to Edo regen. Also Goku doesn't have anything that would permanently put an Edo down other than say planet busting.
As for mindset, if not specified its generally assumed on the forums that characters act in character which is why someone like say Thor doesn't just go blitzing everybody. Situations in which Goku acts both in character and bloodlusted can both be suggested here.
All of this means that if Goku act in character, he's in danger of falling into one of the hax from the respective 3 verses: Aizen, Sugar, Obito, Danzo, Shisui, Itachi, Kuma, Gremmy(to a much lesser extent), Mayuri & Magellan's poison would all damper Goku's chance. To be specific if Koto Amatsukami can be place on Goku then the fight for the HST is won.
If he's out of character and blows everything up, then that would net a win for him. Which means we keep going back to mother****ing mindset
The best example of Goku quickly blocking a planet buster was done in the Namekian saga as a Super Saiyan.
I'm tempted to do just that. However I would like to point out that Goku's beam clash with Vegeta wasn't instant. And since he hasn't really been hit with any other planet busting attacks at base it really hard to say anything else about it
The can't because nobody has hit them with such a level of attack. However surviving disintegration is still a valid feat in the Edo regen court.
Its more of an unofficial unspoken rule for CIS. However research on character mindsets and abilities is required as outlined in the guidelines: which is one of the causes for that unofficial judgment coming to pass. That has stayed mostly intact over the years.
Goku has been hurt by less just putting it out there. And stuff like Goku needing oxygen and not immune to disease/toxins/mind-rape is always viable means of attack.
The edo tensei have been disintegrated by a molecular dismantiling jutsu.
They were reduced to literally nothing and came back. They are bound to the living world and they only way to get rid of them is for the caster to dispel the jutsu.
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Hax which will be useful, barring desperate resorts to CIS..... before or after he glasses the place
Oh indeed, Goku isn't unbeatable. Unfortunately the HST is not in his weight class
If they haven't, then they can't. Simple
As for regenerating from disintegration, that sure helped ****ers like Cell and Buu amirite?
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Such as?
Seriously, get over it. Goku (and DBZ characters in general) are so far above the HST to the point where they can just hover above them and mop it up in one go. No amount of desperate pleas to CIS will change anything
Regenerating from nothing would imply they were annihilated (in the literal sense) and had their souls and minds destroyed. This was not the case
>NLF
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The edo bodies were reduced past a molecular level which is a greater regen feat then cell who regenerates when brain cells are intact. If you didnt know molecules are smaller than cells. Kid buu and cell both died after being disintergrated they didnt come back.
Their souls being bound to the living plane has nothing to do with a no limits fallacy thats just how the jutsu works. Casters from the naruto verse have said the same thing. And proof is madara who remained edo even after kabuto dispelled the jutsu
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Cell and Buu haven't regenerated form disintegration whereas Edo Tensei zombies have the capacity to. That would actually be a point in the HST teams favor.
Also considering the functionality of the justu its quite possible for them to tank it provided the attack itself negates Edo regen such as what Obito and Madara can do.
lines 1,2 and 6 cover general research and posting information on character feats, abilities, or additional knowledge that would affect the outcome of the fight.
The fact that Goku can still drown, the Special Beam Canon, being crushed by Great Ape Vegeta, lava( the HSt has a guy that can turn into the stuff), and the fact that his immune system isn't unbeatable.
CIS is still valid if nothing is specified by the thread maker, which keeps looping all arguments back to mindset. And considering this is only base Goku, the chances of him glassing the entire planet in one go can be challenged.
Not quite. Goku's only done complete annihilation with the Spirit Bomb against a pure evil character. And in cases of the Spirit Bomb using the "it takes time to charge" argument is indeed valid. Using equivalency rule only removes the restriction it has on what the Spirit Bomb can affect.
Even if he could do that in base form due to how Edo Tensei works, they would still regenerate.
Remember this is the same Goku that struggled with 40 tons( though I was never sure if that included the higher gravity of the Kai planet). Blitzing however is a sound argument unless characters like Kizaru and Enel are brought up...then it gets a tad difficult.
Start of Z Piccolo Solos since he is a casual Moon buster
And Raditz is much faster then mach 50
Roshi and Crane can effortlessly catch machine gun bullet point blank, Yet 22nd Goku completely disappeared from there vision. And the list of biltzs goes on and on and on.
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