WildBantha88
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anyways if EU was allowed in this argument, Jedi blow asguardians out of the water
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May 8th, 2014 02:58 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Asgardian's win.
Agreed.
May 8th, 2014 03:02 AM
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Yeah chick could crush pelvis with that core. Don't believe me check out my profile pic.
Anyway, I have an issue with the TK versus super strength argument. I realize for plot sake jedi wont use TK ad nauseam due to boring and repetitive battles but it doesn't sit right with me that it'd be easy or even possible to toss around or paralyze Hulk, Thor, Supes etc. I cant prove anything at the moment.
Seriously I forget. How did Luke get that portcullis to fall on the rancor?
Weight (and thereby applied force) affect Force TK, otherwise Yoda would have stopped the falling rubble and lifted the X-Wing just as easily as Darth Maul picked up and tossed that small piece of debris, but the weight of those much heavier objects caused Yoda to strain somewhat.
Now who's to say Hulk couldn't be held by a powerful Force-user, at least for a given amount of time. Though since Hulk can't fly, all his strength could be rendered useless by Force lifting him a few inches off the ground.
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May 8th, 2014 03:02 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Weight (and thereby applied force) affect Force TK, otherwise Yoda would have stopped the falling rubble and lifted the X-Wing just as easily as Darth Maul picked up and tossed that small piece of debris, but the weight of those much heavier objects caused Yoda to strain somewhat.
Now who's to say Hulk couldn't be held by a powerful Force-user, at least for a given amount of time. Though since Hulk can't fly, all his strength could be rendered useless by Force lifting him a few inches off the ground.
I could concede Hulk, Kurse, etc. Basically any othergrounded brick being lifted and just flailing around .....maybe. But the MOS and Thor argument has weight.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Now who's to say Hulk couldn't be held by a powerful Force-user, at least for a given amount of time. Though since Hulk can't fly, all his strength could be rendered useless by Force lifting him a few inches off the ground.
Maybe, but then again it's easier to pick up a 100 lb barbell and keep it aloft rather than pick up a 100 lb kid and hold him aloft. When an object is not moving and not resisting, the weight is uniform and it makes it easier to hold up. When something is moving and actively resisting, the weight shifts and force of momentum makes it a lot harder to hold that person up.
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May 8th, 2014 05:53 AM
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Perhaps not a lone Jedi but multiple jedi creating a force grip around him could probably hold him. Like the High Jedi Counsel could hold the Hulk
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by WildBantha88
Perhaps not a lone Jedi but multiple jedi creating a force grip around him could probably hold him. Like the High Jedi Counsel could hold the Hulk
Yes yes, and the force could stop Superman and Juggernaut as well. Please.
May 8th, 2014 04:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by meep-meep
I could concede Hulk, Kurse, etc. Basically any othergrounded brick being lifted and just flailing around .....maybe. But the MOS and Thor argument has weight.
Yeah, definitely.
Why IMO, Reeve-Routh Superman couldn't be held at all by the Force, since he can exert the amount of power it would take to lift a billion+ ton island from sea level to the outer atmosphere in under 2mins. While being actively weakened no less.
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May 8th, 2014 05:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes yes, and the force could stop Superman and Juggernaut as well. Please. you don't know much about the force do you?
May 8th, 2014 05:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by WildBantha88
you don't know much about the force do you?
You don't know much about a joke do you. lol
May 8th, 2014 05:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You don't know much about a joke do you. lol
I do and a concept about jokes that you fail to grasp is that they are supposed to be funny
May 8th, 2014 05:26 PM
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You mentioned that if EU was allowed in the argument as well the force would win, If comic book version on Thor and Loki was allowed it would blow EU out of the water I'm afraid.
May 8th, 2014 05:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You mentioned that if EU was allowed in the argument as well the force would win, If comic book version on Thor and Loki was allowed it would blow EU out of the water I'm afraid.
it would be a more interesting fight the movies don't incorporate many feets
May 8th, 2014 05:30 PM
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EU Force > Marvel's butthole
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May 8th, 2014 05:34 PM
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I sense a disturbance in Rob's force powers
Marvel's butthole > EU Force
May 8th, 2014 05:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by WildBantha88
anyways if EU was allowed in this argument, Jedi blow asguardians out of the water
Eu isn't canon to the movies. But TCW is.
Either way Obi-Wan and Anakin get stomped. They're not even the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the Mythos. That would be Yoda and Sidious. (Although Ep VII Luke will likely be more powerful than either of them).
May 8th, 2014 07:52 PM
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Fail. The Jedi will precog this and render Thor immobile, unable to throw the hammer. Accept it.
Wait, Thor is already in flight when the fight starts? Lol, look at you changing the rules in Thor's favor.
He will be in flight by the time they try to restrain him. Try to keep up.
Thor throws Mjolnir. They die.
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May 8th, 2014 10:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, definitely.
Why IMO, Reeve-Routh Superman couldn't be held at all by the Force, since he can exert the amount of power it would take to lift a billion+ ton island from sea level to the outer atmosphere in under 2mins. While being actively weakened no less.
And Cavill? While not as uber as either of those 2 he still has got decent showings. I personally don't think movie force would do much to him.
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