Another thing supposedly cell's kamehameha could blow up the entire solar system. Gohan stopped that yet both goku and vegeta couldnt stop kid buu's planet busting attack.......
Damn you dbz and your inconsistency
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This post is so contradicting, it's crazy. Doomsday was as strong as Superman. Why didn't Doomsday lay waste to the city/planet since he is a mindless brute? Konvikt is a mindless brute, why didn't he lay waste to earth after defeating the the JLA. Amazo is mindless and is in possession of the entire JLA power source. Why didn't he lay way to the city or the earth? This type of argument is a lame way to go tbh and it is easily countered. I can make this clear though. It was stated that he was looking for Goku and Vegeta, that was the reason he went planet to planet and that is why Goku called him to them (by raising their power levels) because they knew he was looking for them.
Now if you want me to sit here and name all of the mindless people that could have done more damage, then I don't mind but you might need to put a Lil more thought into your arguments.
Buu first small ki blast was a planet buster. His other attack was so much more. If you are basing things off of collateral damage. Superman died from a punch that didn't even destroy the city they were fighting in. Thor died from a blast that didn't even level the mountain they were fighting on.
Because Buu attack was more powerful than Cell solar system destroying blast. When are you all going to stop basing things off of collateral damage? That's not what DBZ is about. Which blast is more powerful, Nappa up finger blast that destroyed a continent and was seen on the outskirts of space or Frieza finger blast that killed Vegeta?
The earth being destroyed 10 times over is an anime filler.
I brought up the death beam because this proves all DBZ attacks are controlled energy, all of them are not meant to cause the destruction you are trying to claim. Example...teen Goku survived a nuclear explosion without a scratch. Piccolo later on shot him with a blast that went clean through his chest. DBZ isn't based entirely on collateral damage because Cell has damaged Vegeta with far less destructive blast than continent level and Vegeta TANKED Nappa blast. Goku would tank Roshi moon busting attack and Piccolo moon busting attack during the Saiyan saga, unless you think Roshi and that version of Piccolo could kill Namek Saga Goku (lol).
Answer this. Frieza tanked a planet exploding on him. Does Goku have to hit Frieza with a planetary plus blast to kill him (a blast that will destroy the planet afterwards)? Remember, even though Frieza, a weaker Frieza tanked planetary power, he was turned to dust by Trunks with a casual blast that didn't even wreck the mountains behind him. I'll be waiting for your answer.
no one ever stated that the death beam could destroy the planet.
when characters state thing like this blast has enough power to destroy the whole solar system. that means its stronger than the blast that characters say can blow up a planet. point blank period
"this blast has enough power to destroy a solar system">" that blast had enough power to blow up the planet" theres no way around it cell shot off a stronger blast than kid buu did. that doesnt mean however that kid buu couldnt gather enough power to destroy a solar system because hes stronger than cell.
my point is that if gohan can stop a solar system buster why cant goku and vegeta together fend off a planet buster
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Also want to throw out that if you accept the anime filler where it was stated that Buu blast would destroy Earth 10 times over, that blast would basically wipe out every planet in our solar system. Then, Goku said that during the beginning when Buu was charging the attack up..by the end of it, that blast was at least 5 times bigger.
No one said you did but you are using collateral damage to support your your argument. Where was it stated that Buu blast was only planetary in power? Again, his first casual blast was planetary, his second blast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his first blast.
Again, if this is a collateral damage debate regarding DBZ. Do you think Roshi could kill Namekian saga Goku with his moon busting attack. This question is simple. Do you think Saiyan saga Piccolo could kill Saiyan Saga Vegeta with his casual moon busting attack. Do you think Saiyan Saga Vegeta can kill Super Saiyan Goku with his planet busting power?
Even though Cell blast had enough power to destroy a solar system, that doesn't mean his attacks are more powerful than a being that is far more powerful than him. Buu can create a casual blast that wouldn't ev3n destroy a building that is more powerful than anything Cell could dream about conjuring.
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Last edited by carver9 on May 2nd, 2014 at 07:46 PM
I agree even though it was anime filler. This still doesn't help your argument. Collateral damage doesn't mean a thing in DBZ...hell, even during regular dragonball it didn't mean anything. Stop basing your argument on collateral damage.
its not a planet buster if the planet isnt busted thats the whole point of it being called a planet BUSTER..........my point anyway was to point out the inconsistency of gohan stopping a solar system buster and goku and vegeta failing to stop an attack that blew up the planet.
i also want to point these random information frieza was mortally wounded by a planet busting attack, goku died from a planet busting attack and gohan,piccolo,goten, and trunks kid buu was blown to bits by a planet busting attack. they are susceptible to planet exploding attacks.
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You just don't get it do you? For some strange reason you are not comprehending this. Frieza survived the planet destruction and it wasn't the planet destruction that took him out. It was Goku finally blast that messed him up. Trunks killed a more powerful Frieza casually...The same frieza that withstood a planet destroying attack but yet Goku tanked everything frieza threw at him with his index finger. Are you not grasping this? Do you not understand this?
A planet explosion didn't kill Goku, Cell power did.
The planet explosion didn't kill Gohan, Picollo, and Goten, Buu power did. Do I have to explain what a planet explosion is? If Buu didn't have a thing to do with the planets destruction, if Gohan and the crew wasn't hit by Buu's energy and it exploded under its own power, THEN you can make that claim. The planet being destroyed as a side affect isn't an indication that it takes planet busting power to take out a Z fighter.
Now again, can Saiyan Saga Vegeta planet destroying final blast kill Namekian Goku or Super Saiyan Goku? Yes or no? This is a simple question that you are clearly making difficult.
Stop avoiding my question and stop mixing up DBZ characters getting killed by their villains power versus the planet destruction. No Z fighter has died from a planet exploding know them.
Frieza attack did more collateral damage than what both Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 combined could conjure and they was going all out. So you admit that Frieza blast (that Goku apparently tanked while being in his blast hair state) is less powerful than Goku and Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 combine due to the destructive nature. I can go on all day with this if I wanted because again, collateral damage doesn't mean a thing in DBZ since Kid Buu can shoot a casual blast that is more powerful than anything that Perfect Cell could dream about ever accomplishing.
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