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Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir
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Dominis
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I never did like being one of those fans who criticize and nitpick at every little mistake, but it has always irked me to see a random non-force sensitive hold off or land blows on a force user in close combat, as it contradicts the advantages a force user holds over them, which is more than just being able to move objects with their minds. It's like the writers forget that these are the guys who casually deflect and/or evade multiple blaster bolts even at close range, which is something hard to forget seeing as how it happens so frequently.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
Cyborg is a playable species for the Smuggler in TOR. And all the classes have access to reflex-enhancing cybernetic implants (like Canderous has). As well as combat stims and adrenals that boost fighting ability. Plus as I pointed out in another thread, depending on if you see equipment descriptions as canon, technology could be built into equipment to enhance strength and speed.

All of these are just possibilities. No concrete info on any of the classes really exists outside of the descriptions on the website and in Swtore.



Well I can overlook him being able to hold his own against force users or being able to dodge blaster bolts then, as long as there are at least hints as to why he's capable of these.

So I'm alright with that.


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Darth Abonis
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It might be different to block blaster bolts than to fight a much wider living target.

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Anybody notice that part of the Plagueis novel has now been retconned?

Apparently Talzin brought Maul to Sidious now instead of Maul's mother trying to save Maul from Talzin.

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Darth Thor
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Originally posted by red8
Anybody notice that part of the Plagueis novel has now been retconned?

Apparently Talzin brought Maul to Sidious now instead of Maul's mother trying to save Maul from Talzin.


Doesn't matter. The whole EU is officially not canon to the movies and TCW.

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Not true.
The movie novels are still canon.


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Awesome comic! Worth the 5 second download. wink

Also a nice accolade for Talzin:
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Darth Thor
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not true.
The movie novels are still canon.



Even that's debatable as they are written by authors who will just mix other EU stuff into them.

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Galan007
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Doesn't matter. Any portion(s) of the film-based novelizations that do not directly conflict with on-screen happenings, are canon.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Awesome comic! Worth the 5 second download. wink

Also a nice accolade for Talzin:
http://i55.servimg.com/u/f55/17/73/92/12/416.jpg
"The fact that Maul lives is proof enough that Grievous failed to destroy her."

I wonder if Palpatine's statement implies that Maul/Talzin share a common life-bond brought forth by magic? Meaning: when one lives, both live--but when one dies, both die? If so, this could likely turn into a '2 birds/one stone' scenario. ie. Palps kills Talzin, which will kills Maul by proxy(or vice versa.)

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Darth Thor
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^ Nah if that were true Then Palpatine would just kill Maul. I think he means how else was Maul revived. Remember his revival was after Grievous' s forces destroyed the nightsisters.

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Originally posted by Lord Stark
Reading the novel:
"Grievous. The most prolific slaughterer of Jedi since Durge."

Impressive considering Durge has thousands of years on him.


Mind you, (1) since Durge, so not counting Durge, and (2) how many Jedi slaughters have their been in between? Aurra Sing and... pretty much just Aurra Sing, right?



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Nah, Maul would tool Grievous with the Force. But that's okay, because Grievous doesn't have to be on par with Maul to be a threat. Again, he's a military commander first and Jedi killer a distant, distant second.


Maul doesn't typically leap to force usage first.

Griev specifically let some of the other droid forces tire him out a bit before jumping in, and thus it doesn't surprise me that he did so well.



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To be fair the Separatists are not ****ing around here.

I did not see one regular battle droid (the incompetent sad sacks of shit). Their army in that battle was entirely Super Battle Droids, Droidekas, Commando Droids, and Magnaguards.


Plus, superior numbers. Mandos are good and all, but they're hardly invincible, such a high end droid force willing to soak a lot of losses is fairly overwhelming.


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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Nah if that were true Then Palpatine would just kill Maul. I think he means how else was Maul revived. Remember his revival was after Grievous' s forces destroyed the nightsisters.
Probably. I'm just speculating, is all. thumb up


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Maul dispatched those magna guards with ease, they didn't tire him out at all. Grievous is just that bad ass


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Try Dark Horse digital.


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Originally posted by WildBantha88
Maul dispatched those magna guards with ease, they didn't tire him out at all. Grievous is just that bad ass


How do you know he didn't tire him at all? He was also force waving shit load of droids before that. Grievous is not THAT Bad ass. He's no match for Maul in a one on one fair fight to the end. And Maul and Grievous both know that.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Grievous is not THAT Bad ass.


I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM


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Galan007
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@ the low-balling.

If one force-wave and a meager two-page-long battle with a few Magnaguards were enough to significantly fatigue Maul, his stamina would be complete shit. Thanks to his battle with Palpatine in "The Lawless", however, we know that Maul's stamina is sufficient to engage in a MUCH more intense/rigorous battle, against a MUCH more powerful opponent, and for a MUCH greater duration of time than what we saw in this issue, without showing ANY signs of fatigue. Am I to believe this team of Magnaguards taxed him more than Palpatine did? Please.

The answer here is simple: Grievous was able to give Maul a decent fight, because Grievous is just THAT good. Accept it and move on. thumb up


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Originally posted by Galan007
@ the low-balling.

If one force-wave and a meager two-page-long battle with a few Magnaguards were enough to significantly fatigue Maul, his stamina would be complete shit. Thanks to his battle with Palpatine in "The Lawless", however, we know that Maul's stamina is sufficient to engage in a MUCH more intense/rigorous battle, against a MUCH more powerful opponent, and for a MUCH greater duration of time than what we saw in this issue, without showing ANY signs of fatigue. Am I to believe this team of Magnaguards taxed him more than Palpatine did? Please.

The answer here is simple: Grievous was able to give Maul a decent fight, because Grievous is just THAT good. Accept it and move on. thumb up
You sir have my stamp of approval


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I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM



Not official canon.

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