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Jaggarath
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Today is a good day... a very good day.


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@XSUPREMEXSKILLZ - Yeah, was askin why he teamed up with Sion, figuring that, while he could take her on and win, he didn't want to risk whatever harm she could inflict on him in a straight fight regardless. Apparently he's just lazy.

Go figure?

@DarthAnt66 - Yeah, was asking about the "Heart of the Force" comment, possibly even trying to get a direct comparison to Nihilus... he didn't bite (not that I expected it, given, well, **** vs debating :maybe). Was also trying to confirm she wasn't just bullshitting, given I've seen really lazy ****ers appeal to her less than trustworthiness to brush her word off before.

Still, have at it. :maybe

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Well yeah, we all knew Revan wasn't Mortis + tier like the quote implied, the quote was hyperbole for Revan being among the greatest, and at last he confirmed this. Thanks. thumb up


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No, I mean, I've had ****ers doubt her word entirely based solely on the fact she typically seems to bend the truth.

Wasn't even talking like in relation to anyone else, they just thought the comment was fraudulent.

Like Cell destroying Solar Systems hyperbolic

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So her quote could be in relation to the Sith Empire in TOR? Technically they are the True Sith that Traya was talking about and we have proof like Thanaton having Hord's Lightsaber techniques.


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Traya was referring to Naga Sadow's Sith Empire.


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But Hord wasn't alive during Sadow's empire.


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But Hord wasn't alive during Sadow's empire.


Just take this away from the email

>Kreia's assessment of Hord being a godly duelist is accurate and not hyperbolic or baseless
>They were working this in originally to hype up and showcase how powerful what they thought the ancient Sith would be like when we got (but never did get) KOTOR3

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Yeah but technically what the "true Sith" that Traya was talking about in KOTOR 2 was eventually revealed to be the Sith Empire in TOR and the True Sith is what was being hyped as being akin to the Ancient Sith.


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This is true

You all can work out how to debate the second point, I just wanted clarity on the first :maybe

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Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Emailed Avellone about Kreia's talk on Hord for what it's worth

1. When Kreia speaks of Tulak Hord and his prowess with the Lightsaber, she mentions how ancient Sith Lords would make more modern wielders of the force look like children playing with toys. How does she know this? Is she merely speculating off of information she read? Did she come across his and other Sith holocrons? Was she just making things up? Or, given the sort of clairvoyance she showed at the end of the game, did she possibly glean this information by some kind of psychometry? If the latter most choice is viable, would you have any opinion on how Kreia would compare herself to Hord in terms of raw force power too?

^That's the question, his response is the image in the hyperlink

And just in case the image eventually breaks, here it is in quotes



Take it as you will, though at the very least Avellone doesn't feel Kreia was being all that hyperbolic.

At the very least, doesn't seem like TOR does anything to contradict Hord being that awesome.



Actualy there is some force power that allow to transport your spirit in the past or the future ! Revan and Kreiause that kind of stuff....

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Revan was one of the most powerful Force-wielders ever."

Yesssssssssss, I thrive off these quotes. THANKS. Also:

"Would have been developed in KotOR 3." WHY DIDN'T THEY MAKE IT!!!!


But he didn't and will never be thank to 3.0 !

Normaly Revan creat his holocron after KotOR 3 XD !!!

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Did you knew than Tulak hord was mandalorian? His village have been the witness of a battle between sith and Jedi...This where came from Tulak hord first hate the Jedi... The sith felt a force sesitivity in the boy, so they ask there parent if they can train him they agree......

No sorry no battle field.. This was just a Jedi watchman... eird I found than he have been trained on Korriban at a Young age....

You know what? Time topull out the heavy artiellerie....

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Kreia
C'était le tombeau de Tulak Hord, le plus grand duelliste au sabre laser de tous les Seigneurs Sith.

Exilée (Meetra Surik)
Dites-m'en plus.

Kréia
Son talent était reconnu de tous. A cette époque vivaient de véritables maîtres du sabre laser. Si vous deviez affronter un ancien Seigneur Sith, vous vous apercevriez que nous ne sommes que des enfants qui s'amusent avec des jouets en comparaison des prouesses des anciens maîtres.

Exilée (Meetra Surik)
Qu'est-ce qui l'a rendu aussi fort ?

Kréia
On ne le sait pas. Mais on suppose qu'il a créé un holocron pour enseigner sa technique aux autres Sith. Cet holocron devrait se trouver dans son tombeau. Malheureusement, le tombeau de Tulak Hord a été l'un des premiers à être pillé par les profanateurs du nouvel Ordre Sith. Si cet holocron a survécu, je doute que quiconque sache où il est.

XDXDXDXD In fact Tulak Hordget his technic from an Holocronn and Revan.. Revan took it away from Tulak Hord tomb Hahahahaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!

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Kreia
C'était le tombeau de Tulak Hord, le plus grand duelliste au sabre laser de tous les Seigneurs Sith.

Exilée (Meetra Surik)
Dites-m'en plus.

Kréia
Son talent était reconnu de tous. A cette époque vivaient de véritables maîtres du sabre laser. Si vous deviez affronter un ancien Seigneur Sith, vous vous apercevriez que nous ne sommes que des enfants qui s'amusent avec des jouets en comparaison des prouesses des anciens maîtres.

Exilée (Meetra Surik)
Qu'est-ce qui l'a rendu aussi fort ?

Kréia
On ne le sait pas. Mais on suppose qu'il a créé un holocron pour enseigner sa technique aux autres Sith. Cet holocron devrait se trouver dans son tombeau. Malheureusement, le tombeau de Tulak Hord a été l'un des premiers à être pillé par les profanateurs du nouvel Ordre Sith. Si cet holocron a survécu, je doute que quiconque sache où il est.

XDXDXDXD In fact Tulak Hordget his technic from an Holocronn and Revan.. Revan took it away from Tulak Hord tomb Hahahahaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!
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You aren't really in the business of making sense, are you?


I sort of just thought he was some foreign programmed bot that exists to espouse the virtues of some fanfiction Revan :hmm

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Damn, if only KotOR 3 would have been made. Revan fighting uber powerful Sith gods. Awesome, thanks! thumb up


Yeah, there was an interview he did last year and he talks about what he planned to do for KotOR 3. The idea was the True Sith were led by these godlike Sith Lords who were crafting entire star systems to rule. It sounded bad ass as hell. I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: Here we go: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...o-the-dark-side

Oh what we could have had... And instead we got f***in TOR.

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Yeah but technically what the "true Sith" that Traya was talking about in KOTOR 2 was eventually revealed to be the Sith Empire in TOR and the True Sith is what was being hyped as being akin to the Ancient Sith.


Avellone's vision for the True Sith was entirely different and far more awesome. So no it can't.

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Sorry my new keyboard isdoing shit actually... Especialy with the spacebar I wanted to mean Tulak Hord get his light saber technics from an holocron, and create his own Holocron after to teach his technics to he others... Andguess what Revanarrived on Korriban, took it away !!!


about KotOR 3

Spéculations sur un Kotor 3
Quelle sera le parcours de Revan après Kotor 2 ? Quelle est sa vraie personnalité ?

Kreia
Revan était le pouvoir. C'était comme regarder le coeur même de la Force. On pouvait alors y voir, gravé dans son âme, le Jedi qu'il ferait périr.

Cette phrase laisse entendre que le côté Lumineux de Revan sera submergé, détruit par son côté obscur. L'acte criminel du Conseil, lui forgeant un profil Lumineux de force, ne résistera pas au retour de Revan dans l'Empire, en 3951 BBY, alors que Kotor 2 se déroule.

Il est probable qu'il devienne Seigneur Noir des Vrais Siths et affronte l'Exilée, aussi puissante que lui, voire plus, qui, elle, est résolument ancrée côté Lumineux et utilise des techniques unifiées de la Force que Kreia lui a enseignées ou qu'elle a découvert spontanément. L'Exilée sera probablement vainqueur (après un temps où, si l'on en croit la vision du futur dans le tombeau secret de Ludo Kressh, elle bascule elle aussi du côté Obscur avant de se ressaisir).

Est-ce que la vision du futur, dans le tombeau secret de Ludo Kressh, sur Korriban, serait exacte ?

Revan a totalement basculé du côté Obscur et est devenu le Seigneur Noir des "Vrais Siths".

L'Exilée va fléchir un moment, tant qu'elle sera seule dans l'Empire, puis elle va se ressaisir (seule ou avec l'aide de l'un ou l'autre de ses compagnons de Kotor 2 - le très secret et taciturne Bao-Dur, prêt au sacrifice, pourrait trouver sa place et s'épanouir ici, comme Atton. Elle pourrait aussi tuer l'un ou plusieurs de ses compagnons de Kotor 2 venus lui prêter main forte, ce qui provoquerait son retour du côté lumineux etc. ... toutes les spéculations sont permises)

Revan est vaincu par l'Exilée qui reçoit probablement de l'aide de tous ceux qui sont sensibles à la Force (l'un des compagnons de l'Exilée, à la fin de Kotor 2, devait rester dans la République pour indiquer le chemin à tous ceux pouvaient aider l'Exilée).

En 3951 BBY, personne n'a le temps de former de nouveaux Jedi (il faut plusieurs années d'apprentissage pour cela). Il y a donc de fortes chances pour que plusieurs des compagnons de l'Exilée se retrouvent à ses côtés et que Kotor 3 ne se passe pas trop longtemps après Kotor 2 - sans doute entre 5 et 8 ans après Kotor 2.

Quid de Mandalore, qui obéit aux ordres de Revan, est fidèle à ses allégeances mais aussi à ses amitiés ? Il a regroupé les clans Mandaloriens ! Va t'il prendre le parti de Revan ou de l'Exilée ?

Quid d'Onasi et des armées républicaines ?

Quid des dizaines de milliers de HK-50 (il y avait de nombreuses usines Hk-50 comme celle de Télos), tous avec un centre du comportement désormais aligné sur celui de HK-47, le "patriarche" ?

Compte tenu de ce que l'on commence à savoir de TOR, qui n'est pas encore sorti à la date d'écriture de ces lignes, il n'est pas impossible qu'à sa mort, l'esprit de Revan cherche à survivre et occupe le corps de l'Empereur car il semble que l'Empereur, 300 ans après Kotor 2, ait des conduites contradictoires qui pourraient être dues à la cohabitation antagoniste des deux esprits dans le même corps.


Kotor 3 existera et sera absolument épique et spectaculaire, sur nos machines multi-cores et nos nouvelles cartes graphiques ! Euuuhhh... c'est possible sur du bi-écrans 2560 * 1600 en 3D avec les adversaires qui sortent, l'un de l'écran de gauche, l'autre de l'écran de droite, pour s'affronter au milieu, sur mon bureau (ne pas rayer le verni, s'il vous plaît !) ?

Pour appuyer la théorie selon laquelle Revan basculera à nouveau du côté Obscur et agira en Seigneur Noir des "Vrais Siths", il y a, tout simplement, son holocron, rédigé à la fin de sa vie ("Mon temps est fini..."). Il est le Seigneur Noir des Siths lorsqu'il enregistre cet holocron, à la fin de sa vie (et vers la fin de Kotor 3).

L'Empire mettra 300 ans à s'en remettre et déferler sur la République.

Kotor 3 nous racontera probablement cela, après le lancement de TOR.

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Just how many people here do you figure speak french, dickhead?

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