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Star Trek vs. Star Wars
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Films vs films is fair.


it's not fair to the primary trek universe. at all.


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The Force>Star Trek

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it's not fair to the primary trek universe. at all.
Do you feel Star Wars wins based on these stipulations ?


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Do you feel Star Wars wins based on these stipulations ?


yep.


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I think the Borg could defeat the Empire.


Are you kidding, The Jedi would destroy the Borg with their eyes closed.

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Are you kidding, The Jedi would destroy the Borge with their eyes closed.


no, they really wouldn't.


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Borg would drop like flies before the Empire. Superior firepower is a wonderful asset

inb4 "Borg adapt" or "Borg assimilate" or whatever

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yep.
I disagree.


Trek has Klingons, Borg, Romulans, Vulcans, teleportational abilities, red matter, Khan Noonien Singh (two versions), etc.


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no, they really wouldn't.


The Borg are like the walking dead compared to the Jedi. The jedi would wipe them out, all of them.

The Death Star would utterly wreck cubes and the sith/jedi would wipe out the foot soldiers like fodder.

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I disagree.


Trek has Klingons, Borg, Romulans, Vulcans, teleportational abilities, red matter, Khan Noonien Singh (two versions), etc.


in very small quantities, which would be ineffectual against the bulk of the sw forces. sheer numbers alone, sw would overwhelm them imo.

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Borg would drop like flies before the Empire. Superior firepower is a wonderful asset

inb4 "Borg adapt" or "Borg assimilate" or whatever

Also, go away TI


actually the borg can adapt, whether you hate them or not.


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Borg would drop like flies before the Empire. Superior firepower is a wonderful asset

inb4 "Borg adapt" or "Borg assimilate" or whatever

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Are you kidding me ? Did you see how pathetic the droid army (which was a powerhouse in the Wars universe) and they are nothing compared to the Borg.


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in very small quantities, which would be ineffectual against the bulk of the sw forces. sheer numbers alone, sw would overwhelm them imo.



actually the borg can adapt, whether you hate them or not.
How would they overwhelm them with the shielding, transportational abilities, and the weaponry the Trek universe has access to.


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Are you kidding me ? Did you see how pathetic the droid army (which was a powerhouse in the Wars universe) and they are nothing compared to the Borg.


Considering the Borg are strategically retarded in general and slow as ****, I fail to see the point in bringing up the droids. Or why the Borg are special

Ground superiority doesn't mean much when you control space and can just nuke the shit out of them from orbit

And Star Trek's firepower in space is cuty busting at best, compare to the Empire who can slug country busters


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actually the borg can adapt, whether you hate them or not.


Which is a no limit fallacy


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Considering the Borg are strategically retarded in general and slow as ****, I fail to see the point in bringing up the droids. Or why the Borg are special

Ground superiority doesn't mean much when you control space and can just nuke the shit out of them from orbit

And Star Trek's firepower in space is cuty busting at best, compare to the Empire who can slug country busters
They are slow but they can adapt to weaponry and assimilate. We see how powerful the Borg cube is and the sheer influence aka impact they have on the Trek universe.

Shielding.


Red matter is more powerful than anything the Wars universe has access to.


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Which is a no limit fallacy
How so ?


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if the borg are strategically retarded than how come they managed to turn defeat into near victory via time travel and also take control of the enterprise with a small platoon. also keep in mind that they only lost the combat sequence because picard was using hacks and knew precisely where to hit them.

please watch star wars first contact before continuing to downplay the borg, k?


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They are slow but they can adapt to weaponry and assimilate. We see how powerful the Borg cube is and the sheer influence aka impact they have on the Trek universe.


Massively no limit fallacy

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Shielding.


How durable?

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Red matter is more powerful than anything the Wars universe has access too.


Death Star laser is in the quintuple digit yottaton range (was going to say ninaton, though most people here wouldn't know what that is) and it's reactor can generate most energy in 24 hours then the sun can every 7000 years

Plus, red matter is hard to replicate and weaponise. It's pretty rare as well


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If some jedi/sith got on a Borg ship, they would make them wish they never showed up.

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Massively no limit fallacy



How durable?



Death Star laser is in the quintuple digit yottaton range (was going to say ninaton, though most people here wouldn't know what that is) and it's reactor can generate most energy in 24 hours then the sun can every 7000 years

Plus, red matter is hard to replicate and weaponise. It's pretty rare as well
No, that is just stating their abilities.

Watch the movies. They can take massive damage and weaponry.

We see them use it easily. The Death Star is much harder to construct and takes a lot more manpower than say Spock tossing red matter down your pie hole.


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