It's not just that, but Katara was besting her before that too. That plus her about to possibly KO/incapacitate her leads to the conclusion that Katara > Azula.
Again the fight was interrupted so theres no way of knowing how azula would have reacted. Yes its possible katara could have beat her but its also possible that azula could have countered.
If katara is better than azula why was she running away from azula the whole time the two fought the last time. If azula was in her right mind and focusing she would have never fell for kataras ice trap. And even so katara was literrally a second or two away from death had she not reacted quickly. Katara barely won a two on one fight against a wild non focused azula imagine if the two were to duel one on one against a focused azula katara would lose.
Remember zuko himself stated that they won that fight because of azulas mindstate
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*sigh* WHEN AZULA WAS IN HER RIGHT MIND KATARA WAS WINNING! JESUS CHRIST, IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND! IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AZULA COULD'VE COUNTERED BECAUSE SHE WAS LITERALLY LIKE A ****ING MILISECOND AWAY FROM SMASHING HER! THERE'S LITERALLY NO WAY SHE COULD'VE COUNTERED! AZULA AND KATARA ALREADY FOUGHT (WHEN AZULA WAS IN THE PERFECT MINDSET) AND KATARA WAS WINNING! PERIOD!
No. It's like you besting me the entire fight and when you're about to do the knock out punch some intervenes. I don't think I can simplify it for you anymore. It's so obvious what the deal is.
Again azula wasnt given a chance to counter she had free limbs and can even bend from her mouth its possible she could have had options to break free or counter. Azula is a very intelligent individual. We dont even know what type of manuver katara was about to do either because just because she slightly lifted azula off the ground doesnt mean she was about to slam her katara could do many things to her in that position. Katara just slamming her is also an option but we dont know how strong she would have slammed her would azula be knocked out? Would she not? Who knows All of these things could have happened and aare possible to have occured but it was left up to speculation. wHy? BECAUSE ZUKO INTERVENED
That same fight azul overwhelmed the avatar and forced him to decide in order to win he had to use the avatar state. Are you saying that katara is stronger than the aang because she grabbed azula? Not killed not slammed not even beaten till unable to fight that makes katara better than aang
Even so her own brother zuko who knows katara's abilities pretty well said that because azula wasnt in the right mind state that now had a chance to beat her in a fight. It was also stated in the series before the last fight that azula couldnt be beaten alone. This is fact you cant go against what a credible source like ptince zuko
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Last edited by chasedown on Jun 18th, 2014 at 05:31 AM
How many times do I have to repeat myself so that you get it? Are you that dumb? Again, Azula literally couldn't do anything, she was even screaming when it was happening, and it was just about to happen before Zuko intervened. How the **** could Azula even hope to win after that? She was losing the ENTIRE fight! And, yes, we do know what Katara was going to do. Because before Zuko intervened Katara was bringing her arms down. Hell, maybe Katara wouldn't have just slammed her! Maybe she would ragdoll her and slam her all over the room! Azula was going to lose, and was losing.
I'm really starting to think you're retarded. I think you're forgetting that there were DOZENS OF DAI LI THERE! SURROUNDING HIM! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
No. They were talking about how he couldn't beat her. Not to mention it was SOZINS COMET, WHERE FIREBENDERS POWERE INCREASES TREMENDOUSLY! SO OF ****ING COURSE KATARA PROBABLY WASN'T ABLE TO BEAT HER AT THAT TIME!
How many times in a fight in both real life, avatar and other anime have you seen someone get thrown and get up still able to fight? Lemme answer that for you tons.
And your telling me that because she screamed that automatically equals a loss.
Idk why your insulting me everything i said in my last post makes percect logical sense.
But in the end All insulting someone in a debate does is lower your credibility and arguement value so continue
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Last edited by chasedown on Jun 19th, 2014 at 12:07 AM
It isnt irrelevant because weve seen characters in avatar take significant amounts of damage from one another multiple times within the series. And theres no telling and much damage azula would have took or if she would have countered because zuko interrupted.
Azula wasnt even using her lightning against her.
What part of there were still many possible outcomes of the fight before zuko interrupted it doesn't make sense.
Just because katara grabbed her doesnt automatically equate to a win for her.
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It's fair to assume Katara would've eventually won, since she was winning the whole fight anyways. This is really annoying, so I hope this time it'll go through your thick skull. KATARA WAS 1 SECOND AWAY FROM SMASHING HER! IT'S NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE FOR HER TO COUNTER, AND IF IT WAS, WHY DIDN'T AZULA COUNTER RIGHT OFF THE BAT?!
So? It still proves Katara > Azula bending wise. And Katara can dodge lightning.
Because Katara was winning the entire time. At NO point during the fight was Azula winning. How can you possibly think Azula would've won if she was losing the whole time and was about to receive a devastating blow from Katara?
She was winning the entire time and was about to smash her to the ground. Katara didn't WIN, but she was WINNING, and was probably about to win though with that slam that was about to happen. If someone is winning the entire fight and was about to do a big, devastating blow, how can you think Azula > Katara?
The exchange was so short how can you decide a winner from just two moves. If zuko didnt intervene and katara totally incapacitated her then i would concede. The fact of the matter is that the fight wasnt concluded just because someone grabs you and picks you up doesnt mean you cant fight back or automatically lose
Azula still had two free limbs and a mouth which all are outlets for firebending it was very possible for her to make a counter attempt unless your saying that fire benders cant bend out of one arm,leg or their mouths.
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I can decide the winner because we don't see Azula winning, all we see is Katara winning. Katara hits her with water, and then Katara overwhelms Azula's fire with her water grabbing both her limbs. You can see when Katara lifts her, Azula's leg is straight down, so her countering with her leg is out of the question. And, Azula wouldn't be able to counter with her arm either, there's no time. And, the only time we see Azula firebending from her mouth, is when she was EXTREMLEY pissed off. So it really wouldn't have come into play here.
The fact of the matter is Katara was winning the entire fight. There's nothing in that fight to assume Azula > Katara. Honorably concede. My evidence is sound and cohesive. This is a futile argument, because it seems to me your opinion can't be changed no matter what.
If shes so much greater than azula as you say How come any other time azula encountered the gang katara wasnt able to just capture or her or incapacitate her.
Remember this is the same azula who fought toph, katara,aang and zuko at the same time and was able to hold them at bay for quite some time. Even tho it was earlier in the book
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