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Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I am actually highlighting the evidence. Saying they are too fast without proving it isn't debating. Let's examine the feats. I'm more than game to humiliate the fanboys.


What you're doing is ignoring speed-portrayal and doing your silly "I can see them move, so that means it's slow". Everyone laughed at you then just as everyone is laughing at you now. Everyone.

Protip: We're often allowed to see characters moving at super-speeds as it makes for a more exciting visual than just blurry lines, seeing nothing at all etc.


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What you're doing is ignoring speed-portrayal and doing your silly "I can see them move, so that means it's slow". Everyone laughed at you then just as everyone is laughing at you now. Everyone.

Protip: We're often allowed to see characters moving at super-speeds as it makes for a more exciting visual than just blurry lines, seeing nothing at all etc.


But wait we can see flash... we can see SS flying... They must be moving at our perception speed.... I mean it couldn't be that the director wanted the audience to actually visually see what is happening. Can't be

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Originally posted by Robtard
What you're doing is ignoring speed-portrayal and doing your silly "I can see them move, so that means it's slow". Everyone laughed at you then just as everyone is laughing at you now. Everyone.

Protip: We're often allowed to see characters moving at super-speeds as it makes for a more exciting visual than just blurry lines, seeing nothing at all etc.
6-7 blasts against the guy who defeated Palaptine in one on one combat.

Dude, that isn't super speed because he got off multiple blasts against a guy who charged at human speeds. Watch the clip. Evidence speaks louder than your cheerleading. Just sit on the sidelines, Roberta.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rxsiOlUa0

Watch and see for yourself.


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But wait we can see flash... we can see SS flying... They must be moving at our perception speed.... I mean it couldn't be that the director wanted the audience to actually visually see what is happening. Can't be
Pilots can fly at much greater speeds than they can street fight at.

laughing out loud

Don't be consistently dumb.

You fanboys are the worst.


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Pilots can fly at much greater speeds than they can street fight at.

laughing out loud

Don't be consistently dumb.

You fanboys are the worst.


WUT???? Do you even try and make sense? At no point did I say or even imply that you can fly and the same speeds you can fight. Quote where I said that or is this just you being dumb like usual. What you quoted was DIRECTLY related to you saying we can see them... So I ask again, is flash moving slow because we can see him moving? That is what you've argued in thread after thread. Welp guys, I can see him moving thus he can't be moving that fast. Should I quote you saying that in numerous threads? I mean it's bordering on severe autism to even try and argue such a point, but again it's quanchi

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WUT???? Do you even try and make sense? At no point did I say or even imply that you can fly and the same speeds you can fight. Quote where I said that or is this just you being dumb like usual. What you quoted was DIRECTLY related to you saying we can see them... So I ask again, is flash moving slow because we can see him moving? That is what you've argued in thread after thread. Welp guys, I can see him moving thus he can't be moving that fast. Should I quote you saying that in numerous threads? I mean it's bordering on severe autism to even try and argue such a point, but again it's quanchi
We cannot see him or his individual actions but the point is made he's operating at a much higher level. That's why I said portrayal so I will ring my point in where you can understand. An exercise in futility I know.


Let's take Jango and use the example I used to illustrate my point. Flash could disarm Jango before he fired a shot. Not the case with Windu because they don't operate at superhuman speeds since other characters are persistently threats to them without those powers.

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We cannot see him or his individual actions but the point is made he's operating at a much higher level. That's why I said portrayal so I will ring my point in where you can understand. An exercise in futility I know.


Let's take Jango and use the example I used to illustrate my point. Flash could disarm Jango before he fired a shot. Not the case with Windu because they don't operate at superhuman speeds since other characters are persistently threats to them without those powers.

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Nope, you said I can see him moving.. I can time his movements.. thus it's not fast. We can also see Flash's movements so he's not moving at fast speeds correct? Try answering the question shoes

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Nope, you said I can see him moving.. I can time his movements.. thus it's not fast. We can also see Flash's movements so he's not moving at fast speeds correct? Try answering the question shoes
That isn't all I said.

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They are not slow but again aren't super fast due to non force users taking on force users just fine. I have also timed out the force feats and it takes an awfully long time save a force push which doesn't do any real damage unless you collide into something very hard.

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Power scaling. Flash would zip right past and we don't see all his movements. Ever. We see a blurring motion and sometimes we see the perception is slowed due to portrayal. This isn't the case as per evidence.

Do I need to repost the clip ?

Every time I post evidence you avoid it like a plague and repeat yourself.

laughing out loud


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But wait we can see flash... we can see SS flying... They must be moving at our perception speed.... I mean it couldn't be that the director wanted the audience to actually visually see what is happening. Can't be


I just hope Quan doesn't actually believe this nonsense of his and is just doing his usual lowball and downplay tactics whenever he really needs a hated character to lose.


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I just hope Quan doesn't actually believe this nonsense of his and is just doing his usual lowball and downplay tactics whenever he really needs a hated character to lose.
Time out the time it takes him to run up and kill Jango. Count the shots too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rxsiOlUa0

When we see someone portrayed at super speed the other people not operating at it are slow down aka Quicksilver Xmen film. You two are clods.


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Palpatine wins easily.

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That isn't all I said.

Power scaling. Flash would zip right past and we don't see all his movements. Ever. We see a blurring motion and sometimes we see the perception is slowed due to portrayal. This isn't the case as per evidence.

Do I need to repost the clip ?

Every time I post evidence you avoid it like a plague and repeat yourself.

laughing out loud


I don't need to quote all you said.. I simply needed to illustrate that you're a buffoon for saying I can see them move they must not be moving fast. Simple

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Khan will get force choked.

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We literally see Palps throwing senate pods as he's levitating some in mid air behind him. Takes no time. We see Dooku in this clip throwing objects with mere hand movements. We see him force crush the bottom of a pillar and tries to make it fall on Kenobi and Anakin... It was instant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg

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Palpatine wins easily.
Based on ?


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His feats which go far beyond someone who got his ass handed to him by Spock and some *****.

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I don't need to quote all you said.. I simply needed to illustrate that you're a buffoon for saying I can see them move they must not be moving fast. Simple
Jango doesn't have force powers.

How many shots does he get off ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rxsiOlUa0

Watch it. That's a fact. Indisputable.


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His feats which go far beyond someone who got his ass handed to him by Spock and some *****.
You are leaving out the context. Khan didn't have either of his guns there and just crash landed. Palpatine lost a fair fight in which he was armed against Windu.

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Against Windu, one of the greatest fighters ever produced by the Jedi Order.

Khan got his ass beat by a pointy-eared genius and some anorexic she boon.

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We literally see Palps throwing senate pods as he's levitating some in mid air behind him. Takes no time. We see Dooku in this clip throwing objects with mere hand movements. We see him force crush the bottom of a pillar and tries to make it fall on Kenobi and Anakin... It was instant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg
I always said he can force push instantly. laughing out loud

The bottom of the pillar on Anakin takes 2:45-2:48/9 for Yoda to stop it. That's multiple seconds to get to the target. That isn't instant. laughing out loud it's longer if we count by when Dooku raises his arm and concentrates.

2:51-:2:53 we see the next object hurled. The object wasn't hurling at light speeds and someone can just dodge or shoot him while he's focusing on tossing something at you. laughing out loud

3:02-3:07 for the ceiling feat. Khan could obliterate him multiple times while he's just standing there vulnerable doing so. This is getting hilarious.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg


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