Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
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Is that all you care about? The old English is hard to read, and your argument doesn't work because I have a hard time reading it. To be honest, most of the time I don't read it because of the difficulty. So, don't quote the bible. Just tell me, but if you insist, then us a new translation, so I can read it.
I can't understand half the old English, so all I read was the words you wrote, and that was really confusing.
Telling someone they cannot follow their natural sexual orientation or die or burn in hell is not liking someone.
Then tell me. What makes a homosexual person homosexual?
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
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I don't know. All of the gay people that I have ever asked told me it was how they always felt. Some tried to be straight, but couldn't. I can only draw a conclusion from what they told me, homosexuality is natural for them, just like heterosexual is natural for me.
fair enough, but just to clarify, i used Modern/New King James and Revised Standard which are newer versions of the old...
you just don't wanna read it, dude... the verses i gave is pretty much easy to understand... and it wasn't old english...
not all natural "urges" are morally correct...
you posted this on page 4 ---
if you will continue reading it, it states ---
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion."
Leviticus 18:22-23
there are also people who prefer bestiality, natural for them? yes... morally correct? no...
and don't you go tell me you don't understand that, 'cause you're the one who gave that verse, i just asked you to read the proceeding verse...
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
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Still very hard to read.
Why don’t you just tell me? I will take your word for it.
What is morally wrong with loving someone? Again, calling homosexuality immoral is homophobic.
I Googled it. You don’t have a problem with reading it. So, don’t complain.
Yes, and it doesn’t tell me why. Therefore, the only thing I can conclude it that it is homophobic.
So, tell me: why is homosexuality an abomination?
I didn’t read the rest of it.
So you are comparing homosexuality with bestiality? You are a sick man. Homosexuality is a human sexuality, it is not bestiality. To make such a claim is homophobic.
When you string a bunch of verses together, they don’t make any sense. I can sometimes figure out one verse. But it is not easy, and most of the time I don’t interpret it like you do. Just tell me your interpretation.
When animals are in estrus they will often let anyone shag them! So tell me then, if you had weird feelings for you dog and she was happy for you to mate with here, would that make it ok? And would the bible be wrong to disapprove of bestiality. After all it all feels quite natural
As far as I know, catholicism allows homosexual people to love each other, they just consider their mating a sin. It's an odd kind of nitpicking, I blame the obsession with sexuality that assaulted the Roman Church after the Middle Ages.
We know God is supposed to care more about the conséquences of an act, and not the act itself.
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
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There is a very good reason for that. He is hiding behind a book, just like people who use videos to hide behind. He can just tell me in his own words, but I think he is too afraid. Or perhaps he feels powerless and needs to pump up his opinion with the perceived authority of the bible.
And stop quoting me from other threads. All you are trying to do is take me out of context. If you continue, I will report it.
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