Gambit was able to tag Gladiator with his cards and hurt him. This actually proves that Gambit can one shot Cass and tag her with his cards. http://m.imgur.com/6MGpZiF
One hit with this and its all over. This is the best speed feat anyone here has to offer. Gambit should have no problem hitting her.
lol You sure it didn't take Bane months to wear down Bruce after he freed all the inmates from Arkham, and watch and waited until Bruce was physically and mentally exhausted. And even then he had to break his back for Batman to not be able to fight back. Furthermore in all there fights since then Batman has either won or had the advantage. But it was never easy. And even NEW 52 its 1-1 where Bane's venom was stronger than ever.
The only thing that look easy was how Batgirl dodged Bruce attacks while smiling.
That's debatable to say the least, and you have yet to prove that he has anything close to that skill level.
Well like in the other BZ I'm still waiting for you to prove that he wasn't still meta. Also there in another matchup where she did good against Slade, but I think one is enough for now to prove my argument.
Storm is skilled in h2h but she's isn't on the same level as elite body language readers who have limited super speed and metahuman reflexes and stats.
Honestly this is just a bad matchup for your team. Taskmaster has the skills and speed to decapitate Bane or simply detach his venom tubes which would send him into shock for the easy ko.
In addition Tasky has explosive arrows and the aim of Hawkeye to shoot Bane with, like he did against the Avengers shooting 7 or 8 arrows at once with accuracy.
He also has the acrobat moves of Daredevil and Spiderman to avoid Bane's blows, plus the shield which has withstood the superhuman strength of an Asgardian used mace.
Batgirl has been dodging automatic near gunfire since a child. Gambit is not tagging her with projectiles. And in h2h her speed and skill is too great, she knows and has used pressure points, stalemated Deathstroke, easily dodged and countered Batman attacks, defeated her mother Lady Shiva twice who was the best martial artist in DC at that time. And she also has significant striking power being able to crack skulls and bricks. Not to mention her able to read Gambit's moves before he can even execute them. There's no Gladiator PIS in a forum battle to save pure Remy Lebeau.
And that's wasn't a speed feat b/c Glad floated towards him, and made no attempt to avoid the blast. Also he was fine after.
Bane doesn't need to dodge Batmans attacks seeing how even in full condition they rarely harm him. Cass is skilled but not as strong as bane. She lacks the strength to put him down. Same with TM.
Storm is on Black panthers skill of H2H and BP has destroyed Cap with ease. Not saying she is as skilled as cass and task but she is highly skilled.
Bane has fought and beaten people not only more powerful than both cass and task. But a hell of a lot faster. The time he fought thunder and lightning. Thunder has easily dodged lightning before. And his brother lightning is far faster than him. Bith are faster and more powerful than task and cass. And he beat them easily.
Gambit hit Gladiator. If you use PIS I will to. The tagging and hurting Gladiator stomps eveone here. Gambit with this feat could one shot them both.
You conveniently left out the rest of that battle, especially when Batman got the upperhand and beat the crap out of Bane and koed him. You might have gotten away with that if I didn't make the respect thread.
Cass is very skilled and does have the striking power to ko him, along with using pressure points like the scan I showed earlier. Taskmaster can also amp his punches using chi to hit with enough force to stop a man's heart for the instant kill.
Again Spiderman is stronger, faster, more agile, has spidey sense, and is better than Bane in every way, and Taskmaster has repeatedly done well against him. Spidey even mentions that Taskmaster has beaten him before.
Yeah you really messed up by stating that Bane beats Batman easily and most of the time. Bane even states in the last scan that he had to exhaust Batman beyond his limits and use trickery. Also Batwoman was able to take a punch from Bane directly on her face and still capture him. And her kick was able to push Bane back on to a tree. Batgirl has more striking power and can take more punishment than Batwoman.
Bullseye easily defeated Gambit in pure h2h after he dodged Gambit's attack. Gambit even tried to run away and admitted that Bullseye is better. Now Bullseye is a good fighter but he's not better than Taskmaster who already has his moves plus Daredevils plus Elektra and so on. And Batgirl with her ability to read body language and training is much better than Bullseye too. Imagine how either one on my team would crush Gambit in h2h. Plus Gambit can't run away here.
Batgirl survives getting thrown through a wooden door, electrocuted, slammed multiple times into the ground by the big gorilla Monsieur Mallah who has superhuman strengh, and being blowed away by an explosion in the building she was in. Also shows her striking power as she is able to draw blood from him.
Also there's much more proof about her ability to withstand brutal punishment and keep fighting, but this is enough for now.
So even if Bane was able to get a couple of lucky shots in, she has the damage soak to take them and still ko him. And she probably wouldn't even feel Gambit blows that much and has survives explosions greater than those the he creates.
But with her skill, able to predict moves with extreme accurately, combat speed and reflexes, she will not get touched by them for any significant blow.
Taskmaster has a broken arm, and between himself, Agent X and Outlaw, they take out about 70 hitmen in h2h, after already fighting various other assassins and sustaining injuries (please log in to view the image)
Again Spiderman is stronger and hits harder than Bane, Cap is on Bane's level, and the Asgardian Warriors are stronger than Bane. Bane's striking power is negated by Taskmaster damage soak and his shield, and that's only necessary if Bane can handle Taskmaster's speed and skill combo which he can't.
Also he has shook off a close bio electric blast from Spiderwoman w/o attempting to block it. Gambit's explosive projectiles won't be putting him down, even if they got pass Taskmaster defenses.
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Taskmaster has the best gear by far and his shield can withstand any blows from Bane.
Taskmaster has beaten people far stronger than Bane, Venom (Flash), Asgardians, Giantman, and Spiderman to name some.
Taskmaster is more skilled and quicker, plus he will be able to accurately predict Bane's every move.
Taskmaster can chi amp his punches plus use pressure points on Bane.
Taskmaster can also used all the skills that he has copied simultaneously.
Cassandra (Batgirl) is faster than Gambit. She has been dodging bullets after they have been fired since a young girl. Gambit will not hit her with projectiles.
Batgirl also possess metahuman stats due to intense training from the best marital artists at the time.
She has used pressure points in combat and has enough striking power to break bricks and crush a human skull.
Gambit is a good marital artists but Batgirl is elite and Batman stated that her technique was perfect.
Plus with all that, she reads body language like normal people read the newspaper she will know what Gambit is going to do and counter attack with devastating results.
Batgirl has owned Deathstroke, beat Shiva, and hit Batman so fast he didn't even know it.
If they were to switch opponents, both would be able to read and react for punishing counter attacks. Along with pressure point strikes, great speed, and significant striking power.
Voting is open and I don't know way Werewolf is MIA.
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ok, so i found this one a little easier to judge than the previous match. i'ma go with supermutant again for much the same reason as previously. i think he did a better job debating and countering. the summary helped at the end. the characters in here are all relatively close, but i think the team of TM and cassie are too skilled overall. i think wolf could have made better use of the environment than he did. bane could hold his own against tasky for a while, but his venom supply is too easily taken advantage of by someone with the skill and weapons advantage that tasky would have. gambit and cassie would be interesting but the scan of bullseye working remy over and the ease with which cap dealt with him are telling. he's not on cassie's level, plain and simple and i don't see his cards hitting her before she can close the gap and end it h2h.
if partners were switched it would be closer imo, but there was no real 'strategy' indicated by wolf. he never dictated who would be going after whom. much like the last one this was a lot of copy/paste of respect thread material as opposed to adapting strategy to deal specifically with these opponents in this situation.
anyway, thanks again for the entertainment. saw some scans i'd not seen in a long while. good job.
It's mostly for the same things Leo says in the post above. I did my best to go by just what was shown in front of me, and from that, I got the distinct impression that said team was just too good for the opposition.
Supermutant wrote a solid summary that outlined his points very well, and his scans were as well laid out as they needed to be to get his points across.
Even with me being unable to read Werewolf's scans, I still felt like he gave a good account of himself. In the end though, I just felt like it didn't get the job done. I'd hope to see more work from him in future matches, as I see a lot of potential there.
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