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Was just an FYI, no need to flip out and get emotional.


I post here asking eninn questions, because I think he needs to be banned. Sure, I'm probably on his ignore list, but everyone is not. I suggest that everyone here ask him questions about Islam, and if he doesn't answer any of them, then he is just spamming the board. He should be banned.


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I post here asking eninn questions, because I think he needs to be banned. Sure, I'm probably on his ignore list, but everyone is not. I suggest that everyone here ask him questions about Islam, and if he doesn't answer any of them, then he is just spamming the board. He should be banned.


I would miss enimem if he was banned though.

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I would miss enimem if he was banned though.


You'd get over it. wink


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I talk to all kinds of guys who are addicted to internet porn on various levels. It's destructive to marriages. Tons of couples are in counselling over it. It puts enormous pressure on the wife to perform to unrealistic standards. When she can't, he gets driven further into his addiction to find satisfaction. As he plunges deeper, he moves further and further away from his wife. It stands to reason that if you are sitting in the dark in front of your computer with your pants down every night that you won't have as much left in the tank when it's time to have real sex with your wife. And she will notice. And you will notice.

Now, imagine for a moment how much freedom a wife has when she knows that her husband isn't going elsewhere for satisfaction. Imagine how good it must feel to know that you are never ever being compared to anyone else because there is and has never been anyone else. Imagine how special it is to know that sex is something that only the two of you have shared together and that it's only the two of you... ever. No one else shares that with you. Not in the past. Not in the present. Not in the future.

Monogamous sex between husband and wife is designed as a picture of the relationship between God and us. We are meant to be together. But when we put something else in that bed between us, God is angry and rightly so! God is all about purity in everything. So that's why we feel guilt about so much that has to do with God. You will never ever match God in terms of moral purity. He is the standard. You will always fall short. The thing about God, though, is that he sees our need. He knows we're guilty, and yet he still wants us

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I talk to all kinds of guys who are addicted to internet porn on various levels. It's destructive to marriages. Tons of couples are in counselling over it. It puts enormous pressure on the wife to perform to unrealistic standards. When she can't, he gets driven further into his addiction to find satisfaction. As he plunges deeper, he moves further and further away from his wife. It stands to reason that if you are sitting in the dark in front of your computer with your pants down every night that you won't have as much left in the tank when it's time to have real sex with your wife. And she will notice. And you will notice.

Now, imagine for a moment how much freedom a wife has when she knows that her husband isn't going elsewhere for satisfaction. Imagine how good it must feel to know that you are never ever being compared to anyone else because there is and has never been anyone else. Imagine how special it is to know that sex is something that only the two of you have shared together and that it's only the two of you... ever. No one else shares that with you. Not in the past. Not in the present. Not in the future.

Monogamous sex between husband and wife is designed as a picture of the relationship between God and us. We are meant to be together. But when we put something else in that bed between us, God is angry and rightly so! God is all about purity in everything. So that's why we feel guilt about so much that has to do with God. You will never ever match God in terms of moral purity. He is the standard. You will always fall short. The thing about God, though, is that he sees our need. He knows we're guilty, and yet he still wants us

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Based on?

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Based on?


He is not going to answer you. He just spams the board and get away with it.


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why not ???


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#MUHAMMAD INNOCENCE OF MUSLIMS response مترجم

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Recent studies confirm that porno scenes have destructive consequences on human’s psychological health also it has bad effects on people’s social status,



Debate over the issue of pornography often starts with the assumption that it is harmful. In fact the US Attorney General's Commission on Pornography, the Surgeon General's workshop on Pornography, Public Health and many academic researchesdetermined that pornography is harmful.

Sex issues are in chatting rooms

In a new study, American researchers believe that growing numbers of married people are turning to internet chat rooms for sexual thrills.

Most spouses who got involved with the opposite sex over the internet did not think they were doing anything wrong, said the report by a University of Florida researcher.But partners felt betrayed even though in most cases no physical contact had taken place.

"The internet will soon become the most common form of infidelity, if it isn't already," said Beatriz Mileham, from the University of Florida, who carried out the new study.

According to counseling groups in the US, Chat rooms are today the fastest rising cause of relationship breakdowns.

“The problem would get worse as the number of people online continued to rise” said MsMileham.

Researchers found that most people ventured into the chat rooms because of boredom, a partner's lack of sexual interest, or a desire for variety and fun.

The study found that what often started out as just friendly chat turned into something much more serious.

"We are hearing from therapists around the country reporting online sexual activity to be a major cause of marital problems," said Al Cooper, author of the book, Sex and the Internet: A Guidebook for Clinicians.

"We need to better understand the contributing factors if we are going to be able to warn people about the slippery slope that starts with online flirting and too often ends in divorce. “Added AL cooper.

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The United States of America:
Violence, in all its shapes, has afflicted the weakest member of the family, namely women and children. Things like, secrecy, no sufficient evidence and legal and social barriers make it difficult to obtain very accurate data regarding violence against women, which is, according to social scholars, is the least type of crime that gets reported.
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Not that violence in the home is acceptable by any means, and from whomever is dishing it out; however, we don't bury women up to their necks and stone them; we don't allow the practice of 'honor killings,' we don't allow girls under 12 to die in childbirth; we don't allow them to marry from the age of five (as can be shown if you need proof!)

We don't allow husbands, brothers, fathers to throw acid on women's faces, or to cut off their noses, etc. and walk away unchallenged by the law! We don't allow our police to beat them with wooden sticks in the street because they are not dressed completely from head to toe. We don't behead people for committing adultery.

We may not 'get it right' always, but we put laws into practice which try to protect the vulnerable and the young; and Islam doesn't!


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Not that violence in the home is acceptable by any means, and from whomever is dishing it out; however, we don't bury women up to their necks and stone them; we don't allow the practice of 'honor killings,' we don't allow girls under 12 to die in childbirth; we don't allow them to marry from the age of five (as can be shown if you need proof!)

We don't allow husbands, brothers, fathers to throw acid on women's faces, or to cut off their noses, etc. and walk away unchallenged by the law! We don't allow our police to beat them with wooden sticks in the street because they are not dressed completely from head to toe. We don't behead people for committing adultery.

We may not 'get it right' always, but we put laws into practice which try to protect the vulnerable and the young; and Islam doesn't!


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why not ???



Was this a real response or a bot response to shakys statement?

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Was this a real response or a bot response to shakys statement?

I don't think he response.


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Eninn,

I still have a serious question concerning Islam. Will you answer if I asked again?


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I don't think he response.


He said something close to it, but I think thats as close as we gonna get to a real response. laughing out loud

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Really????

what about that???


The United States of America:
Violence, in all its shapes, has afflicted the weakest member of the family, namely women and children. Things like, secrecy, no sufficient evidence and legal and social barriers make it difficult to obtain very accurate data regarding violence against women, which is, according to social scholars, is the least type of crime that gets reported.
Ironically, most of the available information regarding violence against women is collected from small statistics done here and there, which give a quick general view for something as important as this international phenomenon. Such information can not be used to provide precise indicators to the level of violence and abuse practiced against women, but it certainly clarifies that violence and abuse at homes is a widespread phenomenon, and that the woman is the victim in most cases.
• In 1980, a statistic was done by Appleton, which included six hundred and twenty American ladies showed that 35% of them were subject to physical husband abuse at least once. In 1981, Chtraws expressed that husband abuse ranges between 50-60% in the United States. On the other hand, in 1982, the percentage was estimated to be 21% by Russell, while Baglo estimated it to range between 25-30%.
• In 1984, based on her research, Walker pointed out that American women are well experienced in physical abuse, and that 41% of women experienced physical abuse by their mothers and 44% by their fathers. 44% of them witnessed accidents of physical abuse by their fathers on their mothers.
• Two thousand nine hundred and twenty eight people were killed in 1985 by one of their family members, and if only consider the case of women we see that two thirds of them were killed by their husbands or boyfriends. Then again, in 1984, 20% of women were killed by their husbands and 10% by their boyfriends.
• Statistics prove that three out of every four women were subject to abuse; 9% of which was done by ex-husbands, 35% by boyfriends and 32% by ex-boyfriends.
• Another statistic that studied the percentage of attackers confirmed that ex-husbands or separated husbands committed 79% of the attacks, while husbands committed 21% of the attacks.
• Statistics proved that the most common cause for physical injury of women (and in some cases the only cause) was their boyfriends. It was higher in number than injuries caused by car accidents, robberies and rape all accumulated.
• According to a study, one out of every four women who seek medical care by a family physician, report that they physically abused by their boyfriends. 37% of such women reported that they hardly overcame them being sexually abused in their childhood, and 29% reported that they were sexually abused when they reached puberty. Also, women who were subject to such abuse experienced depression more than women who did not.
• Results of a questionnaire that was done on six thousand American families showed that 50% of the men continuously abuse their wives and children physically.
• Children who were subjected to physical abuse by their fathers usually grow up to be violent people with their wives and abusive of them three times more than other men who did not experience abuse from their fathers in childhood. Additionally, children whose fathers were very harsh and abusive are one thousand times more likely to be abusive to their wives.
• More than three million kids are endangered by parents’ abuse per year.
• One million women per year suffer being the victim of abuse by a family member that does not reach the extent of death; this statistic is one of the most moderate ones.
• Four million American women a year experience life threatening abuse by their boyfriends. Moreover, one out of every three grown up women face physical abuse by their boyfriends at least once.
• In 1993 five hundred and fifty seven men were arrested for their abuse to women.
• In 1994, 21% of physical abuse cases against women were done relatives, while only 4% of the attack cases against men were done by female relatives.
• 90-95% of the victims of domestic violence were women.
• Children who live in homes were the husband and wife attack one another are subject to physical abuse fifteen hundred times more than other children.
• 40-60% of the men who ill-treat their wives physically abuse their children.
• In one of the studies done, 27% of the murder cases inside the same family were children.
• 90% of children who get killed before the age of ten were killed as a result of a family dispute, and 56% of them were younger than two years of age.
• In 1994, two hundred and forty three thousand of those who received medical care in the “Emergency Room” were treated for injuries resulting from physical abuse done by a relative, and the ratio of men to women in this number was 1:9.
• There are at least four million reports of violence against women yearly, and around 20% of them happened in the house.
• In 1991, more than ninety women were killed weekly; nine out of every ten were killed by a man.
• In around 30% of the family violence cases weapons were used.
• 95% of family violence cases were attacks by men on women.



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Punishment For Adultery

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“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

John 8:3-11 ESV / 14 helpful votes

The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” ...

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“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.

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If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

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285. . The Messenger (Muhammad ) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."
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The most important thing is the Ten Commandments, which will lead you to Islam easily


eninn,

I agree with you that we have plenty of fake Christian who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ but their actions show otherwise.




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ennin,

A question for you (sorry if I have asked before & forgotten your reply):


Some Islamophobes on this forum (and elsewhere) say Islam is suppressive towards women. Yet, it has been conclusively proven that 70% of all new converts to Islam both in the USA and in Europe are women. This would be indicative that it is not suppressive but highly solicitous of women.

What do you say to those critics who insist that Islam suppresses women in light of that fact?


If I read you correctly, you are saying that Islam provides spiritual comforts and dimensions that other religions/teachings do not. That it is more than religious teaching but includes lifestyle alteration and attitudes which is what appeals to women.

One things for sure, Islam's critics have no answer for why so many women convert to it despite all the allegations that it is a contrarian religion.

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christian women are forced to carry their rapist's child. how is that not a punishment dumbass???

Speaking seriously, considering the obvious language issues, yeni presents the Islamic point of view very well. She is arguing from her beliefs and cultural perspective. She puts a lot of effort into presenting the (Koranic) scriptural references and establishing their relevance today. I don't think a lot of what she says is valid or accurate. But, it is certainly no more extreme than what Church Lady posts regarding Christianity. And she is drawing on the same basis, scripture (I think they can them verses), just from her own religion not yours. She probably finds our discussions of religion and the Bible every bit

I actually appreciate her taking the time (and obvious effort) to share her personal view of Islam. She really is trying to give us insight into her belief system, you know? And, while her posts do highlight vast differences, the passion of her statements is no less sincere than Church Lady. If nothing else she is offering us a way to understand . That can be very valuable.


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He said something close to it, but I think thats as close as we gonna get to a real response. laughing out loud


See above. He's not responding to us. He's just posting Islamic propaganda filled with lies. He is nothing more then a spammer.


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Women have their reasons for converting to Islam in as far as they do convert. For example, there was a story in the Blaze this summer about a Playboy bunny who made this conversion precisely in order to excuse covering up. She reports being happy with the results. She writes on her blog: "Yes, I was a Playboy Bunny. [I've] done shoots in lingerie, bikinis and attires that are not exactly meant to protect my modesty…but really, all these achievements got me thinking of a woman’s worth. I believe I am more worthy than showing off my body. I am MORE than this. I started to look for something deeper…a religion, a God, a better way of living life." And later she concludes: "I wanted to cover myself up more…be respected and known for who I am inside…not for how much flesh I am showing outside. The first time I put on a hijab was when I went for local telco company TVC casting…and I looked at myself, and I feel liberated…I feel so happy and protected…I feel safe."

Sounds actually kind of feminist, doesn't it? You see, in reality, having to be immodest is not essentially different from having to be modest. When pressured into doing one thing, many people instinctively want to rebel against that pressure sooner or later and voluntarily go in the opposite direction. Islam became this young woman's excuse. It became a source of security and empowerment for her. That can happen! It's for these sorts of reasons that I'm not as judgmental of Islam or other religions as such as some outsiders to the faith in question are. Most seriously religious people (about 3 out of 5 overall, according to a 2011 survey by Pew Research) are female. There are reasons why that happens. Women don't usually convert in order to become homebound wives and mothers. They convert because they find something empowering in a particular faith that matters more to them than other things.

If I may offer a personal opinion, I believe that when Westerners assail Islam, their motivations are usually a lot more racist than authentically feminist, with Islam simply functioning as a socially acceptable stand-in for a direct assault on someone else's race or nationality. Most Western anti-Islam crusaders in reality are also opposed to things like abortion rights, equal pay and other anti-discrimination laws, and so on and so on. They're not real feminists. They're just posers who are seizing upon the fact that our society is having a feminist moment right now in order to rationalize a more ethnic prejudice

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quote] "I wanted to cover myself up more…be respected and known for who I am inside…not for how much flesh I am showing outside. The first time I put on a hijab was when I went for local telco company TVC casting…and I looked at myself, and I feel liberated…I feel so happy and protected…"

"I feel safe."


So, she has converted to Islam just to 'feel safe?' Her own words. She hasn't converted for intellectual reasons; she merely wants to 'hide away,' and rather than face her fears, irrational or not, she enlists in a sect?

I'm blown away!

She feels safe from her own insecurities and low self esteem by 'covering up?' Sounds more to me as if she is overcompensating to hide her feelings of feeling worthless; and perhaps she needs a shrink more than a Hijab.


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See above. He's not responding to us. He's just posting Islamic propaganda filled with lies. He is nothing more then a spammer.


Have you reported him?

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Have you reported him?


Yes.


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Yes.


I remember a mod saying he was going to ban him if he kept spamming, I'll press report and see what happens.

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