Also, if thats all there is, thats cool, i'm not arguing. I just dont consider killing in war as murder, IF thats what this warrior did.
I was thinking an actual Cain type instance.
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Killing is not murder. You asked for the first female killer in the bible. As far as reality, humans have been killing each other sense before we evolved into humans.
Pardon me i misspoke in the thread title even though i said murder quite clearly in the OP. Obviously i agree with you, as i made the distinction myself.
So, is there a first female murderer in the bible to anyone's knowledge?
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Here is as close as I can find.
"According to the biblical accounts, Jezebel incited her husband King Ahab to abandon the worship of Yahweh and encourage worship of the deities Baal and Asherah instead. Jezebel is said to have persecuted the prophets of Yahweh, and to have fabricated false evidence of blasphemy against an innocent landowner who refused to sell his property to King Ahab, causing the landowner to be put to death."
There are two accounts to the biblical book of Genesis regarding man’s creation.
In Genesis 1:26-27 we are told: So God created mankind simultaneously in the ‘divine image.’ (more of that later); 'Male and Female he created them.’ Ancient Rabbi’s described this account as Adam and ‘Eve’ being of an androgyne; a creature that was both male and female. (Genesis Rabbah 8:1, Leviticus Rabbah 14:1).
However, the second account of creation, which is known as the ‘Yahwistic account, and is found in Genesis 2. It tells us that ‘God created Adam and then placed him in the Garden of Eden. When God later decided to make a companion for Adam, we are told that he put Adam into a deep sleep for some time (anaesthesia?), and then ‘fashioned’ Eve from Adam’s side. When Adam awoke, he recognized Eve as ‘part of him, and accepted her as his companion.’ (Was this implying a ‘female clone of Adam?).
In any event, whichever account is meant to be the true account, if anything in the bible can be true, it entirely clashes with the Jewish accounts of the story of creation. The legend is that Lilith was Adam’s first wife, but he was displeased with her because she was rebellious, and refused to ‘lie with him.’ (Lilith is also mentioned four times in the Babylonian Talmud, and is also mentioned in the Torah, and the Midrash).
Eventually Lilith ‘flew away, up into the air, in disgust at Adam,’ (by some sort of craft? Perhaps, but the ancient priests tell us that she had wings); and, according to the scriptures, God sent three Angels to bring her back; and when they eventually found her by the Red Sea she refused to return to Adam, stating to the Angels that she had been ‘granted the right’ to kill any child she had so long as it was less than a month old. (Had Lilith had a child with Adam and killed it? Was that the cause for rancour in their union?)
In any event, the ‘Angels’ returned and they reported back to God that “They could not force Lilith to return to Adam.” Lilith was later demonized in Jewish folklore as a ‘Demon’ and a dangerous killer of babies; which would suggest that she had indeed killed a child.
(Incidentally, you won’t find any written accounts of these events from any eyewitnesses from the alleged time that the events supposedly occurred; the only written accounts are from ancient Priests whom wrote them centuries after the alleged events. There were no eye-witness accounts to the Garden of Eden story, which is a place that is as elusive to the world and mankind, today, as Atlantis is,
If we are to take these scriptures literally, then we must try to analyse that which is true, and that which is fiction, of the scriptures; and which were written by ancient historians and priests whom needed to indoctrinate the population; the latter, especially, had a vested interest in controlling the people.
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