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Marco1907
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Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Is there anything that supports this?



If you did watch the show, you wouldn't ask this question.

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Almec : Clearly you are powerful, but how can two of you overthrow Vizsla and his supporters ?

Maul : Vizsla is a soldier, and like every soldier, he is bound by honour. I will challenge him to single combat in front of his men, he will not deny me.

----TCW 05x15 - Shades of Reason



Anyway, I can show you dozens of examples about Vader, who had trouble against non-force sensitive Bounty Hunters sometimes, you can't prove anything with that example. Or other Mandalorian leaders, and Fetts were defeating / contending with force sensitive beings etc.


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Mandalorians have been consistently portrayed as some of the greatest non-force sensitive warriors in the mythos, and Vizsla is their leader.


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[QUOTE=14947332]Originally posted by Emperordmb
Boba Fett... Fair enough on that one although IIRC him and Jaina were both holding back during that spar.

Edit: Also, is Jaina really as good as Maul as a duelist..?

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"I will challenge him to single combat in front of his men" doesn't mean he wasn't going all out against him, albeit without the force


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Originally posted by ILS
Edit: Also, is Jaina really as good as Maul as a duelist..?


Seems people are rating her in the Dooku range as a duelist.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
Seems people are rating her in the Dooku range as a duelist.
I skimmed that thread. Eh.

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Originally posted by ILS
Edit: Also, is Jaina really as good as Maul as a duelist..?


Considering her performance against Caedus, I'd say she is considerably better.

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"I will challenge him to single combat in front of his men" doesn't mean he wasn't going all out against him, albeit without the force


''One warrior to another'' ...

What are you expecting from here ? Speedblitz him with one shot via using force speed or force choking him with sorceries ways of the jedi ?

And Death Watch wouldn't follow you. Even with that good show, some commanders denied Maul, with usage of force, all of them would deny him.


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Anyway, a tier list is an awful idea considering how varied our opinions on various characters are.

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Anyway, a tier list is an awful idea considering how varied our opinions on various characters are.


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Considering her performance against Caedus, I'd say she is considerably better.
Lol bye context

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Caedus, Luke all of them inconsistent from old EU.

GM Luke was unable to defeat Desann in Jedi Knight II. Or he gets some trouble with Lumiya in FotJ, etc.


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Lol bye context


And yet, it is still far more impressive than anything Maul ever did. Especially their first duel.

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And yet, it is still far more impressive than anything Maul ever did. Especially their first duel.
Of course it is.

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Originally posted by ILS
Of course it is.


Glad you agree.

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His force lightning is impressive enough imo, he has better force lightning than Count.


FL means nothing in the aggregate of skill, power, and feats which should be the determining factors in ranking. Nyriss has potent lightning but would be stomped by all the duelists on tier 8, Bane has no skill feats and his lightning doesnt rven compare to what he lacks to be on that tier imo


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Anyway, a tier list is an awful idea considering how varied our opinions on various characters are.


We don't have to agree on who's on it. It's fine if person A thinks character Y is on Grand Master tier while person B thinks they're on High Council.

Arguing about who is where is part of the fun!


I like having tiers for the purpose of mentioning "I think X is this tier, and here's why," to give people a better idea of how I picture characters.



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Originally posted by Marco1907
Caedus, Luke all of them inconsistent from old EU.

GM Luke was unable to defeat Desann in Jedi Knight II. Or he gets some trouble with Lumiya in FotJ, etc.


Mind, Desann is a former student, Luke normally goes light on those. And he's more dominant in force than he is in sabers (since, after all, there's a lot of static factors in sabers that don't go up with power. That and he has a conservative style).


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Edit: Also, is Jaina really as good as Maul as a duelist..?


Her saber work was roughly on par with Caedus's, so, yea.

She is a Solo with lotsa combat training.


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Is no one else going to post their rankings?


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I was gonna, but it gets way too complicated.


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Originally posted by Q99
We don't have to agree on who's on it. It's fine if person A thinks character Y is on Grand Master tier while person B thinks they're on High Council.

Arguing about who is where is part of the fun!


I like having tiers for the purpose of mentioning "I think X is this tier, and here's why," to give people a better idea of how I picture characters.


I think the idea is to create a tier listing similar to the comic vs forum and, as a forum, put the characters all on that list. The problem is our opinions are far too varied to create one. Sure, each person can create their own, but one representing the forum would be virtually impossible.

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Well, a couple years ago SWF did something similar--Basically each person made a top 15 list and posted it on a thread. Then each character mentioned would be counted up in points determined by where they were ranked on each person's list.

#1 = 15 points
#2 = 14 points
#3 = 13 points
(So on so forth)
#14 = 2 points
#15 = 1 point

So basically if, say, four people made a list--One ranked Mace Windu as first, another as third, and two more as second--He'd have 56 points. This would be done for every character, and they would be put in an all-encompasing rank--Those with the most points to those with the least.

That seemed like an interesting way to go about things.


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