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Angelalex242
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...Why isn't Han Solo on the non Force Using ranking system?

If Starship combat is included, not having Wedge Antilles is a travesty.

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Voidhound (swtor smuggler) >>> Han.


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You underestimate the power of the Harrison Ford side!

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Voidhound stole Canderous' skull. Your argument is invalid.


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Originally posted by deathslash
Nice to see that some people haven't given up hope on making a good teir ranking system.


Haven't will probably start it out tonight, sucks we can't make edits to a post like on CV though.


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Q99
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Originally posted by Angelalex242
...Why isn't Han Solo on the non Force Using ranking system?


Because it's not supposed to be complete, just a few examples.

Where would you put him?

I'd think the 'Exceptionally skilled combatant' tier. He's a great quickdraw, and good at getting out of situations, but he's not stand out in HtH or such.

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If Starship combat is included, not having Wedge Antilles is a travesty.


That'd certainly be separate, and wouldn't have to split force users from non.


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Nephthys
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I don't buy Han as better than Cody.


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Lesse, pilot-rankings:

Supreme tier:
Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker, Jaina Solo

Super Ace tier: Wedge Antilles, Soontir Fel, Maarek Stele

Top Ace tier: Tycho Celchu, Corran Horn, Gavin Darklighter, Rookie One

Ace tier: Rogue / Twin Sun Squadron pilots, Obi-Wan Kenobi

Skilled pilot tier: Most clone trooper and rebel pilots, experienced TIE pilots

Grunt pilot tier: Droid fighters, many TIE pilots

Unskilled pilots: Many civilian and makeshift military pilots. Most 'Ugly' pilots.


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NewGuy01
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I am disturbed by your lack of Saesee Tiin.

But yeah, Luke and Anakin are incredible pilots.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't buy Han as better than Cody.


I'd say Cody's more well-rounded, but Han's able to quick-draw well enough to keep in the game against Fett, who I think would beat Cody fairly solidly.


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Zenwolf
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Q99
Lesse, pilot-rankings:

Supreme tier:
Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker, Jaina Solo

Super Ace tier: Wedge Antilles, Soontir Fel, Maarek Stele

Top Ace tier: Tycho Celchu, Corran Horn, Gavin Darklighter, Rookie One

Ace tier: Rogue / Twin Sun Squadron pilots, Obi-Wan Kenobi

Skilled pilot tier: Most clone trooper and rebel pilots, experienced TIE pilots

Grunt pilot tier: Droid fighters, many TIE pilots

Unskilled pilots: Many civilian and makeshift military pilots. Most 'Ugly' pilots.


Actually Q I would remove TIE pilots from Grunt tier, they are noted as the best in the galaxy and many of the Rebel pilots are former TIE pilots. TIE pilots having superior reflexes to normal humans, that and only 10% of Imperial Pilots actually become TIE pilots.

The skilled pilot tier is where they should be, at base.

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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Actually Q I would remove TIE pilots from Grunt tier, they are noted as the best in the galaxy and many of the Rebel pilots are former TIE pilots. TIE pilots having superior reflexes to normal humans, that and only 10% of Imperial Pilots actually become TIE pilots.



Keep in mind that we're talking fighter pilots to begin with (i.e. those other ones are all on shuttles, transports, and warships, not fighters), and, well, TIE pilots make up the majority of the fighter pilots in the galaxy. They kinda have to be baseline. They do beat out militia pilots and so on (the 'unskilled' tier), but characters rarely refer to any random TIE pilot as particularly dangerous for passing TIE training.

And the high stand-out ones tend to be promoted to interceptors and such.


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Zenwolf
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Because it's not supposed to be complete, just a few examples.

Where would you put him?

I'd think the 'Exceptionally skilled combatant' tier. He's a great quickdraw, and good at getting out of situations, but he's not stand out in HtH or such.


Actually Han is a pretty good H2H combatant.

At age 17 he fought and won in a gladiatorial FFA arena, he knows various street fighting techniques. He was able to beat down several thugs while having a conversation with Agent Cross.

So all in all, Han isn't that bad of a H2H combatant either.

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Zenwolf
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Originally posted by Q99
Keep in mind that we're talking fighter pilots to begin with (i.e. those other ones are all on shuttles, transports, and warships, not fighters), and, well, TIE pilots make up the majority of the fighter pilots in the galaxy. They kinda have to be baseline. They do beat out militia pilots and so on (the 'unskilled' tier), but characters rarely refer to any random TIE pilot as particularly dangerous for passing TIE training.

And the high stand-out ones tend to be promoted to interceptors and such.


Characters may not, but sources do note that they are pretty effective. Also yeah, the better ones do get promoted to better ships and the like.

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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Characters may not, but sources do note that they are pretty effective.


They're pretty effective, but no better than rebel or clones to be sure (the rebellion spending a lot of effort to get it's pilots good since it *had* to rely on quality over quantity, and helped by many of the defectors being skilled ones).

I mean, arguably one can put rebels, clones, and TIE pilots on the same level, but that's the best I could see.


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Originally posted by Q99
They're pretty effective, but no better than rebel or clones to be sure (the rebellion spending a lot of effort to get it's pilots good since it *had* to rely on quality over quantity, and helped by many of the defectors being skilled ones).

I mean, arguably one can put rebels, clones, and TIE pilots on the same level, but that's the best I could see.


I keep hitting the edit button instead of the quote one. :/ It annoys me...

But yeah them being in the same level would be about right.

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Immortal Tier:

-The Father
-The Chosen One
-The Children of Mortis
-Abeloth

Tier 10:

-Grandmaster Luke Skywalker
-The Emperor Reborn
-Emperor Vitiate
-Grandmaster Yoda
-Darth Nihilus ((please log in to view the image))

Tier 9:

-Revan Reborn 3.0
-Darth Plagueis (This one will certainly spark controversy. I'm currently unsure of where exactly to place Plagueis.)
-Emperor Krayt
-Darth Caedus
-Exar Kun
-Darth Vader
-Emperor Malgus
-The Hero of Tython
-Darth Bane (w/Orbalisks)

Tier 8:

-Darth Tyranus
-Mace Windu
-Barsen'thor
-SoD Maul
-Starkiller
-Freedon Nadd (The dude was pretty damn badass, even feats-wise.)
-Darth Traya
-Emperor's Wrath II

-The Rest

I obviously don't expect conformity on this list, just throwing some tiers/names out there.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Revan Reborn 3.0

@NewGuy01: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/s...hosts-of-mortis @ 11:40


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Tier 9:

-Darth Plagueis (This one will certainly spark controversy. I'm currently unsure of where exactly to place Plagueis.)


Yea, he's a tricky one, but personally I put him in the same general category.


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Plagueis is in the same tier as The Emperor and Caedus, Nihilus is the one that I'm unsure about.


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