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Seriously man? Just look at the pages beforehand:

http://www.mangapanda.com/105-3153-...hapter-504.html

Here he looks pissed that Goku evaded him.

http://www.mangapanda.com/105-3153-...hapter-504.html

Here he says "I won't stop chasing him". Not "I won't stop slowly following him" It's clear he was trying to quickly find him

Then we see him start to chase after Goku but here's where we really see something:

http://www.mangapanda.com/105-3153-...hapter-504.html

Look at his ki/aura now. That's clearly indicative of a high speed. Maybe not his highest but it's clear it's meant to be fast for Buu since there is an abundance of ki around and behind him. Everything in that first frame shows us he is moving quickly. The second frame shows us this as well. I can also go back and show you other examples of characters that look similar when they are flying fast too if needed.

Also I never said he was trying to catch them off gaurd, only that he was chasing Goku and trying to reach him quickly. That much is pretty much proven within the pages themselves



Well if you don't think they fly and travel at LS then I don't think we have much else to discuss about this. If you would like, please post some evidence that supports your opinion that they can react and/or fight at LS so we can discuss your actual stance.


Can black hair Vegeta and Black hair Goku detect Buu if he used 1% of his speed? Yes or no? We can start from there.

In regards to your reflex comment, well...let's start here. As shown many time during DBZ, the more powerful you are, the faster your attacks are. Here we have Goku trapped in a ball of "light".

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Frieza then kick the ball of light onto the ground in which it explodes.

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Goku out races said blast. The ball of light while being in the heart of it. Akira made things obvious. He literally threw things in our face that we tend to ignore. He named certain attacks and attached a speed ft right behind it but yet we ignore it. Example, this was a clear indication of how fast Tien was punching, but yet we ignored it because not only did Akira throw it in our face, but, we ignore how impressive said attack were. Lol...he named this attack LIGHT SPEED FURY PUNCHES.

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Not only did he name it light speed fury punches (lol, thrown right in your face), he drew Tien arms turning into light.

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But wait, just because Akira gave us the obvious and named his attack LIGHT SPEED FURY punches, that doesn't mean the punches are going light speed (wtf).

Anyways, let's move on. Now we are headed to yet another thrown at us speed ft. Let's see what Akira name this attack. An attack that had a highlighted moment.

Here we have one of the most famous scenes in DBZ. Here Raditz dodge Piccolo best attack and not only does Raditz dodge it, he puts emphasis on the ft from Piccolo's own mouth. Piccolo's own words "he must be faster than the..." than the what? Would Piccolo have been impressed if Raditz was faster than the speed of sound? Hell no because Piccolo achieved that during child hood. Let's continue...Raditz not only dodged this attack but let's look at the NAME Akira threw at us yet again...

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"LIGHT" OF DEATH. A blast of light dodged by Raditz. Hhhhhhmmmm, it's hilarious that every speed ft that is thrown at us have the word LIGHT in it. Every MAJOR speed ft during DBZ. Let's continue with another major speed ft.

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Here's another famous speed ft, the SOLAR FLARE. Another high lighted showing of speed that is also, yet again, a form of light. Goku not only grabs Roshi shades, but he does it so fast that the light from Tien body doesn't even touch him. This is an ongoing process. Akira spells it out for us...gives us the obvious that everyone tends to ignore. The fts are there, people are hypocritical about it. I can post more if ya want.


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The attacks didn't get slower in DBZ either. It increased dramatically. Will post proof of this soon.


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its all convuluded bs based on speculation....... theyve never showcased ftl feats but ppl try to claim they are by creating speculative conclusions based on barely any factual data.

speed=d/t

so in irder to make an ftl claim youd have to find data that shows conclusively that dbz characters are faster than 670,616,629 mph using the factors of distance and time.


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like goku flying to the other side of namek in a few seconds. Wasn't namek supposed to be around twenty times the size of earth or something?

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BloodRain and I have debunked that already.


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sorry. Didn't read the rest of the thread.

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its all convuluded bs based on speculation....... theyve never showcased ftl feats but ppl try to claim they are by creating speculative conclusions based on barely any factual data.

speed=d/t

so in irder to make an ftl claim youd have to find data that shows conclusively that dbz characters are faster than 670,616,629 mph using the factors of distance and time.


Did you read what Carver posted at all? Tien can punch at light speed, Raditz can dodge it, and Goku can outrun it.

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BloodRain and I have debunked that already.


No you didn't.


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DB Tien's light speed punch Vs Racoome's Mach Punch..


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its all convuluded bs based on speculation....... theyve never showcased ftl feats but ppl try to claim they are by creating speculative conclusions based on barely any factual data.

speed=d/t

so in irder to make an ftl claim youd have to find data that shows conclusively that dbz characters are faster than 670,616,629 mph using the factors of distance and time.


So if I sent Akira an email and said "Akira, the punches Tien hit Goku with, the hits that you named the light speed fury punches, can you please tell me how fast Tien was punching". What do you think Akira will say (if I was in front of him, he would probably give me the idiot look)?


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DB Tien's light speed punch Vs Racoome's Mach Punch..


What mach punch?


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Come on carver, if you want support DBZ speed at least use good examples, like the one i posted. So far the only explanation i read against it is "it is PIS".

The feats you posted dont count as proof for lightspeed.

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What mach punch?

The Mach Punch/Attack he uses against Goku.


Btw do you have the Japanese characters for Tien's attack?


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So if I sent Akira an email and said "Akira, the punches Tien hit Goku with, the hits that you named the light speed fury punches, can you please tell me how fast Tien was punching". What do you think Akira will say (if I was in front of him, he would probably give me the idiot look)?



you can call your car the ls car doesnt mean its lightspeed its just what youve named the car

in dbz's case it was called the lightspeed punch


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you can call your car the ls car doesnt mean its lightspeed its just what youve named the car

in dbz's case it was called the lightspeed punch


So Akira named it light speed punches because it sound cute? Does anyone have his email address? Anyone. If so, please give it to me.


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So Akira named it light speed punches because it sound cute? Does anyone have his email address? Anyone. If so, please give it to me.



ok so does that mean when goku fires kamehameha that hes literally firing off a wave of turtles?


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ok so does that mean when goku fires kamehameha that hes literally firing off a wave of turtles?


Yes. thumb up


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ok so does that mean when goku fires kamehameha that hes literally firing off a wave of turtles?


What's the difference between a move called "light speed punches" where we clearly see Tien arms turning into light versus kamehameha wave? Again, does anyone have Akira email address?


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