Worse yet is how Toriyama nonchalantly disregarded Roshi's inextricably astronomical boost in power, when asked about it in an interview:
Agreed. I enjoyed it a lot more, actually.
Yes.
Context: Whis is giving Goku and Vegeta pointers.
Whis: "If you ever found a way to work together, for once, you would be able to go toe-to-toe with even Lord Beerus."
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I wonder why they are presenting Bills as the most powerful being in the Universe? They keep saying the same things about him. They are not even mentioning Whis. Also, they said Bills is the destruction of life while there are God's who create life. Does anyone know which gods they are talking about that create life? Is it the Kai's?
Toriyama revealed that Kaioshin are responsible for creating planets/life throughout the universe:
As for Whis' power not being mentioned: his only job is tending to/serving Beerus. He only intervenes when Beerus' actions are overly brash and unwarranted(for him)... Otherwise he just kicks back and lets the God of Destruction do his thing.
The exception to this was him undoing Earth's destruction at the hands of Freeza. However, he only restored Earth because didn't want to lose its food, lol.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Aug 10th, 2015 at 02:38 PM
Makes sense. So if I am reading this right, the Kai's can't creating planets, whole planets, they just lay something there for the planet to create itself. They can create life which displays a huge power showing to me. I don't think people realized the versatility showing Beerus showed. He placed a Kai inside of a swords. Isn't that a display of magic?
^ Kaioshin doesn't create whole planets with a snap, no. He provides the impetus --the fundamental building blocks-- of a planet, and lets nature do the rest. He can, however, divide one planet into multiple planets if need be... Which is quite something.
And yeah, Beerus is who originally placed Elder Kaioshin inside the Z Sword... Definitely seems like a display of magic to me. However, I'm more curious why Beerus didn't just kill him..?
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Probably because it would have been to disrespectfull. Whis would imo most likely have inteferred, also it's possible that those 75 millions years ago (Didn't the old Kai say he had been trapped that long)
Beerus wasn't as strong as he is now.
Lol. Sad that you have to let Beerus win or do things in order for him to not outright kill you or destroy your planet while killing others. He is a psycho. I can't see Vegeta or Goku catching up with him or surpassing him in power. Who would be a threat if they did become this powerful and what would that make of Beerus? He would be nothing.
Beerus and Whis are the strongest in the universe, but there are 12 universes; each of which have their own versions of Beerus and Whis. Wouldn't surprise me if this all ended with Goku becoming the strongest in the multiverse though.
Beerus is still > Goku and Vegeta individually, but together they can match him. By DB standards, this means their powers must be fairly close to his, otherwise he'd stomp them both with little effort. Remember, in DB numbers are inconsequential... More powerful is more powerful.
And as of BoG, Toriyama stated:
Whis=15
Beerus=10
SSJG Goku=6.0
That said, I would imagine that BSSJG Goku and Vegeta are each about an 8.0, to Beerus' 10 now. While it wasn't explicitly stated that BSSJG>SSJG, we know that Goku and Vegeta have each underwent fairly extensive training with Whis since BoG--which means their powers are undoubtedly > what they were in BoG. BSSJG is, after all, a more perfected SSJG, without a time-limit. Aside from that, I can't imagine anything less than 8.0's being able to match Beerus. /shrug
With further training and evolution(which you know is bound to happen), I have no doubt that Goku and Vegeta will eventually surpass Beerus.
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