Nihilus is more powerful than anyone in the Starwars Mythos excluding the Ones, the spirits, and Abeloth. Nihilus is in a tier of his own that is above the likes of Luke Skywalker, but below the likes of the Ones. There is no counter for Nihilus devouring an entities connection to Life, the Force, and reality. It is not force drain, this has been stated word for word in the game itself.
1. Nihilus is below the Ones (arguably, could be above them depending how his power interacts with them)
2. Nihilus is above Luke Skywalker
3. Luke LOTF Luke skywalker is FAR above DE sidious
4. Darth Caedus was very close to Luke SKywalker in power, and combat ability
5. Darth Caedus is above DE sidious
6. DE sidious was above DE Luke Skywalker at the start of the book
A. It is arguably that DE sidious was greater, equal or weaker than his ROTS incarnation. Although he was physically younger, his clone body was weaker than his original body in its ability to channel the dark side.
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I didn't fake anything I simply reposted what I had already seen.
Oh and way to completely dodge the point, it is stated outright that Kun was matching Ulic blow for blow and was dealing in power blows.
Ulic should boss him in a direct strength bout but he can't and this is notably one of the best Djem So users in the mythos as his accolades imply.
Obi-wan vs Vader 1 is a completely different argument, my point is that Kun would have stalemated Ulic for hours until they both died and this fanon acceptance has no baring on what is implied at all.
People take his Niman and against every single description of Niman simply label him with his own variant of the form which completely contradicts the description of said form. I know Jensaarai continues to describe him as a Niman user with no balance but it's illogical for numerous reasons.
Here are some hard facts:
Exar Kun is very very physically strong and has enormous Force Rage feats to back it up with.
Exar Kun's master, Vodo Siosk-Baas uses Djem So as his preferred form, implying that Kun would know a very serious amount about Form V combat.
Exar Kun uses trademark power blow attacks against his opponents and classic Djem So stances in nearly all his depictions.
Ulic Qel-Droma, likely the greatest Djem So practitioner in the entire era could not defeat a Kun using a single blade power blow style, Ulic's own backyard. Furthermore every description of the fight and on top of that the depiction of the fight itself shows Kun and Ulic fought a battle of strength and power blows with numerous blade locklocks
I am by no means stating that it is canon that Kun uses Djem So to a very high or mastered degree, merely that the amount of evidence implying such means it may as well be canon.
Ulic himself has shown very concrete signs of Ataru, he employs exceptional speed and acrobatics in his fights.
Just because a guide has only given them a single form does not mean they are caged to said form. Infact they are such excellent duelists that I would be highly surprised if that were indeed the case.
I am not going to cage my logic to such a degree that everything I ever put forth as an argument is restricted to book/guide statements alone.
Are we going to pretend that Traya wasn't Arren Kae simply because a book hasn't gone to the trouble of making it obvious? Chris Avellone himself all but confirmed that she is but wouldn't be so blunt.
We are all intelligent debaters here, let's not act like the crowd who continue to pretend that Bane won the mental battle against Zannah and lived on to be freaking Sidious, because it's obvious that Zannah won.
Exar Kun using Djem So is far from laughable.
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Newguy said that the blur feat for Exar Kun existed, but that it was posted it an entirely different context.
If he could find it that would be nice.
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When I googled the quote the only results found are the ones you posted and ones people posted that found out from you. It originates with you, and it doesn't exist, so you invented it.
...great, I guess?
Why would Ulic boss him just because Exar uses Niman lol? Exar is strong himself.
Not really. Obi-Wan and Anakin matched each other blow for blow for the majority of their fight and this isn't at all evidence that Kenobi uses Djem So.
It's not really illogical. Niman is his preferred form and the one he has mastered. Doesn't mean he has to fully adhere to it.
Correct, Exar is very strong indeed.
The same could be said about Qui-Gon Jinn and Makashi or Anakin and Soresu. I think we both know that they don't use or have necessarily even become proficient in using those forms, though.
Well, in his fight with Ulic he was utilising savage "thrusts", which, correct me if I'm wrong, aren't trademark Djem So strikes. Not that it really matters either way.
Yes, it was a very strength-based fight and both guys were trading power blows equally. What's your point? Is this meant to be evidence that Exar uses Djem So or something?
Your evidence is conjecture, bro, and there is nothing solid to suggest he is proficient in the form. You could simply say that Exar is a strength-based combatant who has a base in Niman, which is more or less the truth of the matter, but instead you're reaching.
I don't see what this has to do with Exar, even remotely. Exar doesn't utilise acrobatics.
If the guidebook is the only real evidence of what form Exar uses then that's all we can use. There just isn't anything to suggest Exar uses Ataru or Djem So. The best you can argue is that he uses an aggressive and power based variant of Niman.
It isn't laughable, just unconfirmed conjecture.
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Fake. The book doesn't even cover those events in any kind of fashion. The history part ends with: "Ulic wonders aloud when Nadd meant when he said the Jedi had lost. Recalling words from milleennia ago, Master Arca replies that the ancient Sith prophecies foretell a time when the Dark Lords will return ..."
What Fact File is this? I'm assuming it is 14. Sadly I only have 85-140 of them, so I'm just going to ask for a scan.
Eh, the concept is there, but the actual quote isn't. Here we go:
"Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, leaving the darkest power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger."
I need a page number for this. I did a quick run through of the book and couldn't find it.
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Listen, I'm the type of guy who will put up your username on every damn Star Wars website in existence saying you posted fake quotes, so try not to piss me off.
That doesn't make it not fake, it still is. And I doubt your excuse, link me to the talk page.
That's a huge difference, bro. The fact you recognize the change yet didn't change it proves you are knowledgeably forging shit. Also, link me to where you originally found it.
Apology accepted.
Like I said, I want a page number. I don't care about what Tionne said.
Well, you did.
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