If you take the scoring of fans literally, then IMDB has The Shawshank Redemption as the Greatest Movie Of All Time (I'm a fan of the film, but it's nowhere near that level.) Players get voted into AllStar games and have that on their resumes due to fans stuffing ballots.
Fans are fans, not detached observers like critics are supposed to be. Their opinion is often not an informed one, too based on emotion.
Besides , polling of audience reaction of the reboot gives them movie an B+ rating so far, which is good. I was at the theatre for this last night, and the audience was laughing and applauding through to the end.
If fan opinion and enthusiasm on the internet was so real, then both Serenity and Green Lantern would have been massive hits when they got released, but weren't.
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It's just we're supposed to believe Critics are not making any reviews based on emotion, but in some of the positive reviews they almost feel the need to point out the controversy, etc. They almost feel like they have to justify it.
For me, I look at majority. Critics don't have some special spidey sense that allows them to better appreciate movies. They don't have this thing that automatically takes emotion out of it. So I'm not sure what you are talking about, fan reaction so far seems mixed.
The fact is if people are going to use rotten tomatoes, the GA score can't be ignored, period.
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I understand your point, but at the same time I just find it silly to more or less say "well these thousands of thousands of people just can't separate emotion from a movie when reviewing it so those views are skewed" but the people who make a living off reviewing it don't have skewed views? It just sounds silly to me.
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I like how some people are still crying about BvS getting very low critic scores. However, I should point out that I didn't ignore GA scores, in fact I posted them more than once.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Oh I completely agree. RT scores are always based on the views of 200-300 critics.
And to say they're free from Bias is frankly laughable.
I'm just calling out the double standards and hypocrisy from the people who pick and choose when Critics scores matter and ignoring them when they don't like those scores
1. People who haven't even seen the movie are allowed to score it
2. There's an organized faction of people campaigning to downvote/sink the movie however and wherever they can despite not having seen it
These things result in fan scores being heavily skewed, especially for such a controversial flick with fervent haters. There's definitely lots of fans who give genuine unbiased scores, but in general critics are more trustworthy. The critics score is 76% rt and 67% Metacritic, which are both generally positive.
Actually it's score is 74% on RT and if you just use the top critics, it's substantially lower. So take those and the GA scores and we are left with it being at best mediocre.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Not by the top critics it's not and the GA score isn't very good. But continue to make excuses. I knew you would welch on the bet.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Once again you can't just cherrypick the bad critic reviews, the critical consensus is positive. Critics are trustworthy, regardless of whether they come from high profile or lower profile sites. Also I just explained why GA scores can't be trusted, because ppl like you go in and create 10 accounts to downvote the movie without seeing it.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the person who is ignoring 2/3rds of the info RT provides is accusing other people of cherry-picking?
BTW, please provide proof that people have created 10 accounts to down vote the movie and also prove that nobody created multiple accounts to up vote it.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I'm not ignoring anything. The critic consensus is positive.
The fact that both those things are possible means the GA score isn't trustworthy. You just proved my point. Neither of those things should be possible, but they are.
All critics 73
Top critics score is 57
GA score is 52
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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