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Is betraying Plagueis Sidious' downfall?
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Tzeentch
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When Sidious died, the fleet got all derpy because his BM stopped taking effect.

I doubt the Death Star II would've been blown up if Sidious hadn't been thrown down that shaft by Vader.
Battle Meditation doesn't exist in the films.


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Battle Meditation doesn't exist in the films.

So what? That is the in-universe explanation, even if it's from expanded universe material and not the films.


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Seriously. If you look at it from a pure movie perspective,


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Though Han and friends still had to deactivate the shield generator. That and Luke had plenty of time to escape the Death Star, which Sidious would've had if he were in fact still alive.


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I'm going to go out on a limb and say trying to kill Vader's son in front of Vader is Sidious's downfall.

That and underestimating how the natives can turn the tide of battle when dealing with planetary shield generators.


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I'm going to go out on a limb and say trying to kill Vader's son in front of Vader is Sidious's downfall.

That and underestimating how the natives can turn the tide of battle when dealing with planetary shield generators.


The natives didn't really turn the tide, it was Chewie and his stolen AT-ST that were doing so. The script, novel and even the movie to a certain extent tells that the Imperial force was winning and that Chewie taking ahold of the walker turned the battle around.

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The natives didn't really turn the tide, it was Chewie and his stolen AT-ST that were doing so. The script, novel and even the movie to a certain extent tells that the Imperial force was winning and that Chewie taking ahold of the walker turned the battle around.


Chewie wouldn't have had the opportunity to do that without the Ewoks, though. The Ewoks being a distraction and handling some stormies helped a lot.

And the Ewoks did kill two AT-STs and some speeder bikes.


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Chewie wouldn't have had the opportunity to do that without the Ewoks, though. The Ewoks being a distraction and handling some stormies helped a lot.

And the Ewoks did kill two AT-STs and some speeder bikes.


This is true, but it's more of the Ewoks gave the Rebels the chance rather then them beating the Imperial force.

I swear the Battle of Endor is so exaggerated by people in saying the Imperial forces lost, when there were things going heavily against them in the first place.

Also true they did take out 2 AT-STs, but this was after the fact that Chewie hijacked 1 and destroyed another, this gave a morale boost to the Ewoks in redoubling their efforts. So the Stormtroopers lost vehicle support and then were getting mowed down by a stolen AT-ST.

It's just another one of those false ideas people have on Stormtroopers.

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