Lol @ Ant claiming outdated quotes, but using outdated quotes for Revan.
Lol @ LeGenD claiming Vitiate is no longer a sith. I can just as well say Palpatine isn't a sith, but a nexus of dark side energy that swells and bursts the fabric of space. They're both sith, except Palpatine is his superior.
Not to mention, Vitiate drew on the potent energies of Ziost to increase his power (nexus feat, lol). What Palpatine did to Byss was more impressive in that he infused Byss with his own power.
Still an extremely impressive feat for Vitiate and now I'm not so hesitant on placing Vitiate above Plagueis.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Never mind LeGenD, it's made clear at the beginning of the video that he's using the nexus of Ziost.
Regardless, spirit Palpatine was opening up and controlling wormholes. He did so to teleport his spirit light years away from the Death Star. So even in that form, Sidious is Vitiate's superior.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Emperor is killing both Jedi and Sith, he is no longer interested in Sith related matters FYI. Also, he is more like an entity then a Sith.
The Emperor was no longer a member of the Sith species; his power and immortality had transformed him into a being unique in the galaxy.
Taken from (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan)
Why do you think that both Jedi and Sith want to stop Emperor?
Read this again and again:
Unleashed from hiding on Yavin 4, the former Sith Emperor has struck the Imperial world of Ziost. Using his immense power in the dark side of the Force, he has dominated the minds of the planet's martial forces--as well as an elite cadre of militaristic Jedi--and has set them against the populace, engaging in a bloody slaughter.
His focus and energy was used on TP at the beginning and his overconfidence made him underestimate the opposition. The moment he used his potent attack, Revan was instantly overwhelmed. If they were as comparable as you think, we would see something similar to Yoda's performance against Sidious' lightning.
I think you'll think the same with Caedus when/if Vitiate takes a physical form and gets less vague combat feats in future patches.
You are making shit up. Do not misrepresent Palpatine's actions.
Palpatine, after loosing his body on Endor, arrived on Byss in essence form with aid of other spirits. He managed to possess an individual after his arrival and spent years regaining his strength. In-fact, Palpatine became more powerful then he ever had been before during his time of recuperation on Byss; he drew strength from Byss populace to fuel his own, and used such power to unleash wormholes.
Nihilus would qualify as not being a sith more than either of them, yet he's still categorized as a sith. Different sith have different ambitions, but still a sith. Vitiate's a sith, and an inferior one to Sidious as are the rest. Lol
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
So his attempt at turning Revan took so much power and concentration he was left defenseless against Revan's counter attack and he got knocked on his ass. Thank you for proving my point for me.
Feeding on Byss' populace only served to increase his life span, especially his inferior clones. He was no where near Byss when he unleashed a storm against the republic. Furthermore, the DE endnotes establishes that was the result of Palpatine's own power, as he was a chaotic nexus of dark side energy.
He had aid from other sith to break free from chaos after being consumed by his redirected force storm, not when Vader killed him. Everyone has seen the source. Sorry LeGenD. I can provide it later in case anyone hasn't.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
The content is under development. Also, I have posted official information of BioWare regarding Emperor's actions on Ziost. It is good enough to dispel other claims.
I have provided actual quote from a novel which implies that Emperor is not a Sith in strict sense. Irrespective of how Emperor is perceived, your ranking preferences are based on outdated sources. Much have changed since then.
Vitiate using Ziost's nexus is just Lana's agents guesstimation tbh. Although looking at it he just states the darkside is strong on Ziost and then says Vitiate is using the resources.
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Less vague combat feats doesn't translate to being a Caedus level combatant. Though Vitiate has more potent attacks, Caedus' defenses are stronger than Vitiate's attacks, and possibly even greater TK.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
Palpatine's clones deteriorated. Your argument is weak.
I am not asserting that Palpatine should be on Byss to unleash Force Storms. I am asserting that Palpatine drew strength from Byss populace to fuel his own, and this is how he became more powerful then he ever had been earlier.
Palpatine, as of DE, have no corporeal existence. His power comes from siphoning energy of others.
Really?
Sith spirit: Emperor of numerous worlds... Lord Vader's throne still remains empty. Have you now come to take his place and join us? // Palpatine: No! Not that... ...Your spirits guided me back to this life when I was destroyed by Vader... and his children... My aging clone body will soon die. I need healing... Now.
Taken from (Star Wars: Empire's End)
Also:
He had spent over a year disembodied, formless, drifting through the maddening void of the Dark Side.
He had never foreseen having to transport his spirit so far across space. He had nearly dispersed forever, but he had survived, and now need never fear death again.
As soon as consciousness flickered back to a new clone body on Byss, he opened his eyes. All was as he had planned. He laughed out loud. He
had won! The Rebellion had defeated his fleet, but he would return to rule the galaxy again.
He knew there would be war among his servants since none of them had the knowledge or power he held.
But he wasn't in a position to act just yet. Years of rest and recovery lay ahead. Perhaps it was better this way. His forces had failed him, and the price for failure was what it had always been, death.
As years passed and he grew stronger, he began to concentrate more on his Dark Side studies. Still, he did grow occasionally concerned when one leader or another would come close to silencing the others and claiming the throne. Such ones were dealt with easily. He could let any of his Dark Side Adepts or other loyal servants handle the matter. After all, he still had his Hands and his Noghri.
Yeah, what they focus on in fights is very important.
"The Emperor, unprepared and with much of his strength diverted to his effort to dominate Revan’s mind, was sent flying backward."
I never said Vitiate is invincible. I'm sure you agree that trying to dominate someone's mind takes more effort than defending against it so if it doesn't work, it can backfire like it did in this case. Vitiate never saw that coming though. He was able f*** Scourge up without even properly mindraping him and Scourge is Meetra Surik's equal. So I'm pretty sure he didn't think there was someone out there who could actually defend against his TP attacks and tbf, Revan was successful mostly due to experience.
They still aren't as close as you make it sound though.
By less vague combat feats, I meant defeating TOR top dogs instead of mindraping armies etc. Some saber feats would be good too. Remaining a top tier sith without any is pretty challenging.
As usual, you'll deny such evidence even if shoved in your face, and assert Vitiate's lightning to be all powerful and use the fact that Caedus has never deflected lightning of Vitiate's caliber, instead of comparing/contrasting the attacks and coming to a logical conclusion. Or, you'll just bring up some fancy non-related combat feat as a counter-argument.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Mar 23rd, 2015 07:21 PM
I'm sure you agree that trying to dominate someone's mind takes more effort than defending against it so if it doesn't work, it can backfire like it did in this case. Vitiate never saw that coming though. He was able f*** Scourge up without even properly mindraping him and Scourge is Meetra Surik's equal. So I'm pretty sure he didn't think there was someone out there who could actually defend against his TP attacks and tbf, Revan was successful mostly due to experience. 
