I'm not sure what you are trying to say here? I never said the two were equal or close to it. Merely pointed out that the "new" Vitiate is considerably more impressive because of shit like this.
There's a source that credits Palpatine's knowledge of wormholes from the ancient sith spirits, using the knowledge to teleport his spirit, so that may have given some context as to what Palpatine meant. Otherwise, every other source indicates Palpatine's spirit never left the physical world.
And yes, Palpatine's clones were deteriorating rapidly, hence him using Byss' populace to increase his life, nothing more.
@Sinious--I know what you meant, but Caedus is far above even some of the best combatants.
Nice to see you took SKILLS approach in analyzing Revan's power. Not bad. He's a good example for the TOR fans.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Erm, Force spirits are made from Force energy, they are part of the Living Force itself. Midi-chlorians are not the Force, they are a middle man, channeling the Force through midichlorians is not channeling the Force directly, its channeling it indirectly.
I mean really this is basically Star Wars knowledge, that when a Force User dies they pass into the Netherworld of the Force, that they become one with the Force. The spirit state is therefore a state of limbo, but its much closer to the Force than any coporeal being could be, who channels the Force through an essential third party.
I also see no evidence to support the notion that spirits tire easily. It took 4,000 years for Exar Kun's powers to be exhausted, and still he was powerful.
I've already provided many examples to support my argument, such as mere Sith Lords dominating the minds of other Sith Lords in the Dark Temple, which at the time only the Sith Emperor himself appeared capable of, and Exar Kun invading Luke's mind and sending him into a coma.
I'd also remind you of this quote:And to add, some interesting things I found from The Tenebrous Way:I think its made obvious by these sources that when freed from your physical form barriers are broken down.The Sith Emperor does have a presence, we see it leaving Yavin 4, and that presence needs an anchor, I expect the Emperor was capable of traversing the galaxy for a short while, but eventually he'd need somewhere for his spirit to be housed, and perhaps hand the assistance of the Emperor's Hand in his "escape".
Selenial said something about a Temple, so expect upon arriving on Ziost, his presence was housed their, or somewhere on the planet, and it is there he is projecting himself. So yes, I would argue proximity is the issue here, so its not proof he's weaker than his corporeal form, which again never possessed anyone from a far.
You really aren't getting it. Sith spirits have never been stronger than their corporeal form. There is ONLY evidence of that fact, despite your ridiculous "middle man" .
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
He is no longer the Sith Emperor. If you had a basic understanding on SWTOR you would know they now refer to him specifically as "Vitiate" and even say...
"Attention former Sith Emperor! Your repeated and horrific crimes against the Republic and innocent civilians throughout the galaxy will not go unpunished."
"War has broken out across the globe. Our former Emperor, however, has limited his involvement to the area around New Adasta--near you."
"Vitiate is not our Emperor. Not anymore."
"Aid in diminishing the former Sith Emperor's power by defeating the following enemies in any difficulty mode"
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Unfortunately, what is stated in a game/book/novel is far higher canon than an authors blog posts. It's why none of us take Ant's emails with Karpyshyn or Avellone seriously.
The game stands above that post. Vitiate used a nexus.
Yep. 4:50 mark. So Vitiate is using Ziost's Force nexus and the slaughter of the defenseless to fuel his power. Clearly not representative of his standard capability. I think I'll write this one off.
Mar 23rd, 2015 08:14 PM
