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I would say, that it was superior power that enabled Bane to take an advantage over Kas'Im.
But I guess, that in DK's mind, Kas'Im was still a bit more skilled duelist, since Bane had no answer to his ultimate tactic.
His "ultimate tactic" was deliberately sabotaging Bane's training by supressing knowledge of Jar Kai. Such a great duelist that he has to cheat in order to beat a less skilled opponent that even drove him back .
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Probably not Bane holding him back and driving him back is a good showing in spite of only training for a bit. He would've lost the duel but not because of any skill gap between them, but only because of how badly Kas'im needed to cheat. Kas'im is the one that sucks, tbh. Granted Bane never really ever got better as a duelist himself.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
And Thanaton became a powerhouse later on and Kas'im was a master of all forms, including Jar Kai. Neither of those translate to 'worst duelists ever'. I mean, he wasn't very good, but not the worst of all time, either.
The fact that his own ally told him "stay back! you'll just get in the way!" Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
No offence but I think you're missing the point here.
ALL martial arts, armed or unarmed are (at their core) meant to be used in a fight (although obviously some have drifted away from that focus over time). The point is that simply knowing how to do the moves isn't enough BY ITSELF. Again, you can be able to perform the techniques perfectly but unless you possess understanding of timing, positioning, anticipating an opponent and so on, you're going to get beaten. I once read a quote, something to the effect of "knowing how to do the moves is useless unless you know WHEN and WHERE to use them."
That is what I meant when I said that "perfect form" by itself doesn't mean much in a real fight.
To use your metaphor, a fully trained marksman would be a good shot when he's shooting at bullseyes on a firing range but put him in live combat against guys shooting back and see how well he does there.
Sure, just not a very good one.
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you can't cheat in lightsabe dueling lol. There are no guidelines that everyone must follow or else the lightsaber police will find you. Kas'im didnt NEED to train people in kar'kai. He wasnt morally or contractially bound to do so. That was just Kas'im being cunning and grabbing an advantage
From the sound of it he seemed reasonable skilled, it's just he didn't have an answer for power and a good hit from Orbalisk Bane could knock the saber out of his hand even if he blocked.
But, if he was fighting someone not as strong, who couldn't do that, then he's in a pretty nice position.
His problem was mainly fighting a master who was also, like, twice as strong as him. Orbalisk Bane isn't exactly a normal foe strength wise.
Kinda like how when Savage Opress showed up, a lot of skilled foes had trouble with his strength.
Zayne, for all he was called incompetent at being a Jedi, was able to, by the end, hold on the defense pretty well against a skilled foe. Granted, that's just-defense, and Alek and Jarael were both better, but that's really no shame.
Hey, sometimes you just wanna kill someone weaker.
Apr 22nd, 2015 08:36 PM
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