Haven't you read the Revan novel? Revan and Nyriss both outright tell us that Vitiate and hundreds of Sith Lords partook in a days-long ritual that Vitiate promised would restore the Sith Empire to glory. Long story short, the ritual ended with Vitiate Ziost'ing those Sith Lords and the planet they were on. AKA Nathema.
LOL that's not the point. Natemha always seemed like a ritual focusing solely on the living and the force itself. In Ziost, lots of buildings have been damaged as well. So we're trying to figure out if there is any difference between the 2 drain attacks.
Vitiate's ritual produced the same effects on Nathema as Katarr with prep. Katarr ended with the devastation of the cities. Aren't all three very similar. (So I don't have to go through over a dozen pages of this thread).
You mean aside from having 8,000 sith lords participate?
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Yeah as I said the buildings were intact, they just describe it as a ghost town, I recall no mention of damage. Ziost is more like Katarr, but tbh Katarr is on a whole other level, Nihilus laid waste to everything.
*shrug* everyone died in all instances, so I'm not sure why the destruction varies...
Katarr isn't on a whole new level, rather inferior showing.
On Katarr, entire biota wasn't consumed like on Ziost and atmosphere remained intact. Visas Marr, in particular, survived. Katarr event based images demonstrate destruction with greater clarity though. But Ziost experienced greater destruction with its entire biota gone, atmosphere gone, and much of the infrastructure devastated.
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Global cataclysms are not unheard of. Whole worlds teeming with life have been rendered lifeless by meteorites, broken apart by instability in the planet's own core--even atomized by the destructive force of a supernova. But the eerie calm of a world stripped of life yet left otherwise intact is another matter altogether. Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side of the Force taken to its extreme.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor
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Sidious was the source of the power. In fact, he was defined by such energy according to the DE endnotes. So, yes, with the source of the power gone, then the storm would logically disappear, as it did. The source was very clear on the threat Sidious's power posed had he not been stopped, there's nothing hyperbolic about something that's confirmed to what would have happened. Nothing you can say can override that. If you want to go there, I can dismiss many of Vitiate's with the same reasoning.
Actually, Nihilus beats Vitiate, since Nihilus did it upon arrival. People are so worked up over Vitiate's feat because it happens onscreen and looks flashier then it would in a comic. If Vitiate can use such power instantly, then prove it, because if he can't, no one would wait for him to do it (I'm referring to Sidious level opponents of course). All consuming reality tearing storm >>> planetary tsunami. Common sense.
Vitiate's child hood is meaningless. The quote you gave was clear, the force waited for the inevitable--a light side champion. With Sidious, the force directly involved itself and HAD to create it's own, making Sidious's death the most important prophecy to be fulfilled in the entire mythos. Curious, why didn't the force act in the same manner with Vitiate?
Nothing Vitiate has done contradicts Palpatine's placement as the most powerful sith. There's also no canon source that states the ones of Mortis can't be surpassed after they're dead (other than the father), therefore Palpatine being referred to as the dark side's most powerful expression may just be the truth. Vitiate's quotes refer to his time. That said, he's still only the second most powerful SITH. Sadly, though, he's still way below Palpatine per feats and quotes, and the threat they both posed to the force. Also, the Essential Chronologic has been updated since Vitiate was introduced to the mythos, and the quote about Sidious being the most powerful is still there, not that it matter, though.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
There would appear to be some ground realities you need to educate yourself on.I can assure you the rumour has been confirmed:It is also implied that Nihilus chose to spare Visas, and indeed there is no other reason why she would have lived and everything else died.
Fact is Nihilus devastated the entire planet anddrained it completely of life. Vitiate merely managed to cause structural damage, Nihilus ravaged and decimated the entire surface. Bearing in mind that although the atmosphere was left intact, so was the atmosphere of Ziost and Nathema.
So how as Vitiate surpassed this in any way?
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Darth Nihilus isn't the strongest Sith. if you're taking what Traya says at face value she thinks that in his prime he would only rival some of the Ancient Sith she mentioned.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."