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Emperordmb
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Some time between TPM and AOTC, Soara Antana gets the accolade of being the best lightsaber instructor among the Jedi.


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of all the characters that i know id say luke, kyle katarn, yoda, dooku, and kenobi

*not in order


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But... that's simply because he trained *everyone*. He wasn't the primary instructor of most of those.


Anakin learned from Kenobi from the start of his training. Kenobi learned from Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon learned from Dooku. Dooku's master was Thame Cerulian (though apparently not near as good a duelist, so we don't know his influences all that well). Windu, I don't know if we know who his primary trainer was, though T'ra Saa did handle some of it, but he developed his form with help of Sora Bulq.


There's a difference between did-part-of-someone's-instruction and being their lightsaber instructor.



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Nah he directly taught Dooku. As well as Kenobi.

"Fought well you have, my old Padawan."

"The Jedi Master who instructed me" -Kenobi

Its not a coincidence that the 'Golden age of the Jedi's' grandmaster is also arguably the most skilled swordsman in the Old Republic's 20,000 year history.

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Yep, exactly.

He was really lucky to find someone as skilled as Dooku after he lost Maul, because making one takes a lot of effort.


Nah he wasn't lucky. Plagueis flagged Dooku as Palpatine's replacement in case he made a dumb reckless move.


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Revanchiste
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Re: Greatest Lightsaber instructor

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Every era has it's own master duelists and greatest fighters, but which ones in the SW myths stand out as the best instructors? Who has produced the best students as duelists, and what makes their teaching style so effective? Who were the greatest teachers of their eras/all time?


Revan since he train a shit of sith assassin all by himself.

He put the guy in charge of the inquisitor training into shame. Even at mental warefare he created an army of deadly Jedi killer...

He do more than just teaching form I to yoaung padawan he begin with adults, may Exar Kun own apprentice hekp him in the task (Yhea when you have an empire to rule, a war to lead, reasearch in the force to make, an apprentice ready to kill you at any time, I think that this kind of help can only be accepted.)
Revan is the only one that teach you how to grow rather than just training you at full time.... He lead you in a way of indepandance freedom, how to become your own master controlling yourself, to be able to devlop yourself without relying on the others... Including him.
And he does that with very little time, with hundred of studdents !!!!!

I mean 5H with Revan = 5 Years of trainings !!! It is a cheap and fast option tio become a abd ass !!!!!
He wasn't training Malak That much he was just checking his abiities, in case where Malak could defeat him in a single combat...
It a part of Revan philosophy to do not help the other... SO why he could help a guy trying to kill him anyway????

Or Katarn, but Katarn is more a force teacher...

There is also plagueis. Look at palpatine !!!!

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WildBantha88
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Why am I not surprised that revanchiste said Revan


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FreshestSlice
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The same reason I'm not surprised he thinks Revan personally trained every single Sith assassin.

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Revanchiste
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The same reason I'm not surprised he thinks Revan personally trained every single Sith assassin.


Not Every single on of those......
But he experiance some traininsg methods....

He was also in charge of Korriban academmy... It seem weird to me that sith prefer Malak instead of Revan who was depicted as charismatic but too kind to be recon as sith...

I don't know why in KotOR the studdents of the sith academmy think that Darth Revan was a pussy compare to Malak... They kinda like Malak brutality and Ruthlessness...

And Jorak Uln get quicly hated.... Because under Malak reign if you don't have tortured and killed 14 mans includings woman and children, and even baby, and even cuty cat !!!
You are just a pussy !

He train them on malachor V when he return to Malachor V after finding the star forge, (after that Traya get ass kicked by Nihilus and sion...)
Most of revan work was confrontate the future assassin with themself. What Revan learn them is the ability to progress alone...
Pretty damn handfull when you have an empire to rule.
Most of sith assassin are trained by themself.

Best instructor ever for bringing up a devloped training metho that can be use on mass scale. He may not have to put some amazing effort like Yoda or plagueis... But he certainly knew how to make a good training complex and devlopped by just following simple instructions...

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Wait I notice soemkind of chronoligical mistake... It is said that Revan come back to find Darth Traya but she already get betrayaled....

How could it be possible if she get betrayed after KotOR events? Wait KotOR 1 Dark side ending !!!

Section IV etc....

Humhum Thinking.. We don't know if Revan modified the academmy or use it as it was...
But Revan get all his knowledge from sith Holocron.. He may be following some instructions of some sith Holocrons..
And Vitiate gave some free sith assassin for revan quest....

May revan teaching being... Ancient sith teaching Yhea !!! Ancient sith the best !!!
But they are multiple people does this compt? Alright, Revan Then...

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Definitely not Revan.

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Peharps that Revan did not train high tier character but his teaching contain one thing that the other don't.... And it is somethings really amazing.

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Stigma
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Yoda.

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Originally posted by Revanchiste
Wait I notice soemkind of chronoligical mistake... It is said that Revan come back to find Darth Traya but she already get betrayaled....

How could it be possible if she get betrayed after KotOR events? Wait KotOR 1 Dark side ending !!!

To answer this idiotic question, Revan came back to Traya before the Jedi Civil War, not after. And the Dark Side ending is N-Canon.

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TerasKasi1023
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Sora Bulq was considered one of the greats but do we actually know anyone he trained during his time as a jedi?

As far as one on one instruction goes the best would be Yoda, Dooku, and Luke.

I guess Soara Antana would be up there but just like Sora Bulq we dont really know much about her lightsaber apprentices aside from Darra and Anakin.

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To answer this idiotic question, Revan came back to Traya before the Jedi Civil War, not after. And the Dark Side ending is N-Canon.


He came back before the Jedi civil war and she was here and he receive her teaching before leaving her alone a second time Traya try to resist but she get ragdoll......


Darth Revan return a 3rd time on Malachor to propose her to Join his empire but she already get betrayed....

In anyway.... In you explanation Revan go back to malachor when Kreia still here... So you don't see the problem here....

Revan came back a thrid time. And Kreia get betrayed after the second Jedi civil war. So how could the 3rd "encounter" happen?????

Anwser it could be a miss inetrpretaton from me i get souced in the Dark side version of KotOR II.... May be...


"Yoda, Dooku, and Luke."

And plagueis?

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No, I don't see the problem, because it doesn't exist. Revan didn't go back to Malachor after destroying the Star Forge, and the Dark Side ending definitely isn't canon. I also don't see what this has to do with anything, however, because Revan is a shit instructor in just about every way.

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He came back before the Jedi civil war and she was here and he receive her teaching before leaving her alone a second time Traya try to resist but she get ragdoll......


Darth Revan return a 3rd time on Malachor to propose her to Join his empire but she already get betrayed....

In anyway.... In you explanation Revan go back to malachor when Kreia still here... So you don't see the problem here....

Revan came back a thrid time. And Kreia get betrayed after the second Jedi civil war. So how could the 3rd "encounter" happen?????

Anwser it could be a miss inetrpretaton from me i get souced in the Dark side version of KotOR II.... May be...


"Yoda, Dooku, and Luke."

And plagueis?



Those were just the first ones to come to mind.

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Revanchiste
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No, I don't see the problem, because it doesn't exist. Revan didn't go back to Malachor after destroying the Star Forge, and the Dark Side ending definitely isn't canon. I also don't see what this has to do with anything, however, because Revan is a shit instructor in just about every way.


I try to figure it out....

Did Traya get betrayaled before of after KotOR 1?

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After. The Triumvirate didn't exist until after the Jedi Civil War. Traya was severed from the Force relatively recently to KotOR II's beginning.

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Jaggarath
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Nah, Revan trained a shit ton of the Sith Assassins, and some of the Dark Jedi at the Sith Academy of Korrbain. He is far from the best instructor though.


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Sora Bulq was considered one of the greats but do we actually know anyone he trained during his time as a jedi?


Yes, Mira.

She was killed quite easily by Asajj but to be fair that's really no disgrace, especially as she was not a combat specialist.

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