Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
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I do. I suppose it depends on ages and ages apart. I'm only a year older than him, but I think that when we were 15/16-17/18 I still could have exerted some peer pressure on him. But this is getting kind of complicated and I think that arguing about when it is or isn't ok kind of underlines how difficult it is to get a handle on it. What are we gonna do, only allow it in very specific circumstances and monitor each case individually to make sure?
No no, tell us more about the probability of you coercing your little brother into having sex with you.
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No one tries to home in on whether or not a relationship is abusive or harmful in normal relationships (save when it's obvious, like if one of the parties is a child), so why should we for incest?
It has to be what it has to be, and it is what it is.
We appreciate your intelligent contribution to this thread, as well as broken english.
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LeGenD's latest view's on the topic i.e. LeGenD alienates what little support he might have left/reveals his true feelings.
To answer your questions Legend, no I would not judge anyone of those people for adhering to their religions, as far as they did not use their religion to justify intolerant or immoral acts. For example I would absolutely negatively judge, and do negatively judge individuals who commit terrorism justified on religious grounds. Any faith, or (mis)intepretation of faith, that promotes injustice and/or suffering should be challenged in my books.
Do you accept terrorism when its justified as on religious grounds? Or the mistreatment of women for example? If a person turns around and tells me to lay off because "racism is accepted in my country the entire world is not supposed to adhere to American values", I would not, and I would not excuse their "values" for a moment.
Frankly though I'd be interest to know what particular faith it is that you adhere to that is spreading homophobia, because words need to be had with whomever is in charge...
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My only gripe here is that this ruling did not undergo the constitutional process.
If majority of the states are against it, then let it be. LGBT weddings can still be had in the rest of the states.
Btw, before you label me as a homophobe, if you don't know by now I am part of the LGBT community.
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You cannot post a single response without use of flamebait tactics, can you?
Do you think that I am running for presidency that American public "support" matters to me?
Anybody who is sane, would negatively judge those people who commit terrorism. This needs not to be mentioned.
No religion, IMO, promotes terrorism. Their might be certain aspects of a certain religion that are not compatible with American values, but this does not means that the religion and its followers be ridiculed upon such differences. People tend to be sensitive about religious matters, and respectful disagreement is the best response.
Do you regard mass killings as being acceptable when they are conducted under the banner of promoting democracy? Blame religions for bad customs? Is America (USA) a perfect country with perfect people (angels)? Do Americans not commit crimes, abuse women, exercise double-standards in politics, get involved in corruption, invade other countries and have extra-marital affairs?
I am not sure, what your emotional tirade is all about. As I said, Americans shouldn't be judgmental and arrogant pricks. My point is that judging others is normal but being a judgmental prick is being over the top.
Consider India as an example. Whats your beef with Hindus if their values and life-styles are different then yours? You stick to yours and let them stick to theirs.
I do not disclose my personal information to strangers. Sorry.
I find homosexuality disgusting and you are nobody to call me out on this.
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Self hating?
jk, I don't agree that it didn't go through the constitutional process though. It most definitely did for many years, and when it finally came to the arbiter of the constitution they, as they have done in the past, ruled that marriage is a protected right.
If a majority of states are actually against it they can try to pass a constitutional amendment, but the constitution as it stands today protects the rights of LGBT people to marry their loved ones under the government.
For all their belly-itching, opponents of gay marriage still can't explain what harm gay marriage does to them or how it tramples on their freedoms in any reasonable way, so they instead try to criticize the mechanism by which the legalization was achieved.
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Way to lump all "opponents" into one category. Could you make your statements any more vague?
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An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
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Who me?
Clearly not! So you admit that not all beliefs justified on religious terms should be left unchallenged? And what about racism or misogyny?Evidently you haven't heard of Islamic terrorism, people who justify their actions through a selective and malignant interpretation of the religious Islamic texts.
Religion can be used to promote a lot of things. Heck on this very thread you selectively quoted passages from the Old Testament to justify homophobia, the same text that advocates the stoning of adulterers.
I don't condone any immoral action or intolerant perspective that masquerades under religious or political right.
The immoral activities of others doesn't justify your own intolerance.
My objection is to your homophobia, which has nothing to do with your generalised opinions on Americans.
I've already explained my approach to other religions and cultures here - learn 2 read please.I am a friend, you can trust me. (please log in to view the image)I would challenge you as I would challenge advocates of racism, misogyny and any other form of irrational intolerance, regardless of whether you hide behind religion to justify yourself.
This sentence makes no sense. You're equating religion with "irrational intolerance". That seems irrationally intolerant to me.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
Oh that's so cute, you run in here screaming "troll" and you leave. Your contribution is amusing. Also learn to read what people are "implicitly" saying.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
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