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Lets see everyone here spin this in to "Oh they are not serious, and how this is a good thing."


Hopefully he is serious, it's good to know that they won't initiate a war and don't want a war...


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Hopefully he is serious, it's good to know that they won't initiate a war and don't want a war...


So the part where he says we would totally lose a war with Iran...? Which it is odd for them to think they would have ANY chance..without nukes.

Either way, this person now is utterly crazy enough to think Iran could take us on in a war. Aren't these the same low lifes that talk about wiping other countries completely off the map?


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Hopefully he is serious, it's good to know that they won't initiate a war and don't want a war...


Called it. So it's good to see them making images of Obama holding a gun to his head. I know you stand for anarchy, but are you insane?


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If Obama tweeted a picture of the leader of any country with a gun to his head people would flip there shit. I wonder if there will be any uproar though over Iran doing it.

I agree though I hope he is serious. It's good to know they are so stupid and full of themselves they think they could go to war with us and win.


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Iran just purchased 100 large fuel tankers for their air force so they can extent their air dominance 100 times further.


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And aren't these the same people with members of their government talking about how they want to wipe another country(Israel) entirely off the map?


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Yea, wanna hear something else? The revolutionary guard already said regardless of the agreement, no inspectors will be let in.


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Which is the same as the Republicans in congress saying that the next president would abrogate any treaty with Iran. It's hot air.
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Iran just purchased 100 large fuel tankers for their air force so they can extent their air dominance 100 times further.

You're speaking hyperbolically, right?


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Researched your claim. Right now only one English language news source is making the claim, and Defense World Net, which also covered the story, has fallen short of confirming it, simply putting it as a "DEBKAfile claim."

I'm not entirely convinced this is a real deal just yet.


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Which is the same as the Republicans in congress saying that the next president would abrogate any treaty with Iran. It's hot air.

You're speaking hyperbolically, right?


No, also you know the Rev Guard said they care less about the deal, no one is getting in.


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It doesn't matter what they say. If the Ayatollah wants the agreement to go through, and all indications point to him wanting it, then they can ***** all they want but those inspectors are coming in.

The Ayatollah is the first and last word on everything that happens in Iran, so neither the moderate civilian government nor the extremist Republican Guard commanders can really back up their rhetoric if they don't have his support. And I really don't see them going against Khamenei--that would be undermine their own power base and cause a schism in the conservative subset of Iranian society.


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It doesn't matter what they say. If the Ayatollah wants the agreement to go through, and all indications point to him wanting it, then they can ***** all they want but those inspectors are coming in.


There is a 24 day delay and another 24 delay, they Ayatollah isn't letting anyone in, even if he does, he can just blame his guards for not letting them actually see the sites. Its very clear there will be no inspections, or snap inspections.


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There is a 24 day delay and another 24 delay, they Ayatollah isn't letting anyone in, even if he does, he can just blame his guards for not letting them actually see the sites. Its very clear there will be no inspections, or snap inspections.

Well, you're clearly convinced of this. As there's no hard evidence to believe the deal won't work, just speculation, I'll remain optimistic until facts on the ground change.


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Do you know when the last time someone inspected anything in Iran?


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Because we didn't have a deal in place...


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Because we didn't have a deal in place...


Bro turn on the news, some form, or tell me where you are getting your opinion. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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52% of Every day Americans say congress should reject this deal

33% of Democrats in Washington
66% Of Republicans
55% of Independents,

New polls just came out on MSNBC.


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Bro turn on the news, some form, or tell me where you are getting your opinion. roll eyes (sarcastic)

NPR, BBC, NYT, The Guardian.

But I'm curious what the "opinion" is you're referring to. I have a feeling you're misusing the word "opinion" the same way a lot of my students do in their papers. It's not an "opinion" that what the Ayatollah says is more important than what the RG says--that's a political fact.


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Are they actually taking polls or looking at them, no one wants this deal cept Obama and Kerry, and Kerry just admitted he has not even looked at the secret sides deals! laughing out loud


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