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How do you know it's not operating?

As per interview, the uniform hardens. What makes you think it wasn't operating? Hence why I brought up the shield.... grabbing it doesn't mean you can Pierce it.

Superman fingers on his neck doesn't mean his fingers we're penetrating his neck lol.

I mean,grab your neck. Doesn't mean your fingers are able to Pierce your neck, lol. Imagine you have super hard skin (like some kind of super uniform). Grabbing your neck doesn't mean you can Pierce it....


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How do you know it's not operating?
As per interview, the uniform hardens. What makes you think it wasn't operating? Hence why I brought up the shield.... grabbing it doesn't mean you can Pierce it.


URK !!!

It doesn't matter how much you want to twist the interview, we clearly see that the uniform doesn't affect Superman grabbing DS, even if your argument is that the uniform becomes "harder" by opposion to the Gravity Sheathe which push away the incoming attacks, Wolverine's Adamantium Claws will bypass it.

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Superman fingers on his neck doesn't mean his fingers we're penetrating his neck lol.


I've never said that they penetrated the neck.

I've said that the Gravity Sheathe wasn't activated by the pressure of the fingers which will be the same with Wolverine's Claws.

That's demonstrated on panel.

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I mean,grab your neck. Doesn't mean your fingers are able to Pierce your neck, lol. Imagine you have super hard skin (like some kind of super uniform). Grabbing your neck doesn't mean you can Pierce it....


That's not the argument I am making.

You are on Strawman Spree. Don't stop now. thumb up


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Yes,but writer interview clearly state it's the uniform that hardens. I'm not twisting the interview.

Grabbing does not equal stabbing. You're the one using a strawman lol.

Being able to grab it,and bypassing the sheathe,does not mean stabbing would also bypass the sheathe.

You're really reaching here.


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Forget about the claws.

Wolverine simply chokes Slade to death.


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Whilst Slade has his unbreakable sword, staff (which affects Superman) and Cap level stats?


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Statement of having Cap lv physicals, but no feats to back it up.


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I'd say having a sub dropped on him,catching speedsters etc for someone who doesn't have as many appearances as Cappy,as being pretty in the ballpark.

Why, what showing of his makes you think he's NOT on that level?


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What speedsters he caught?

First he got a reboot slap from Flashpoint, now Rebirth... he's a featless baby, craving for attention (so he gets that godmode suit).


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Yes,but writer interview clearly state it's the uniform that hardens.


I have no problem with the uniform hardening, however it's on you to prove that it becomes harder than Wolverine's Adamantium Claws.

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I'm not twisting the interview.


You are trying to make the costume hardening pass for the Ikon Suit activating.

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Grabbing does not equal stabbing.


I've never said that Wolverine would stab DS, again I am saying that he just needs to push his claws through Slade which will have the same effect than a Hot Knife Going Through Butter.

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You're the one using a strawman lol.


No.

You are redefening my arguments and arguing against your own weakened version of my arguments.

That's a strawman.

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Being able to grab it,and bypassing the sheathe,does not mean stabbing would also bypass the sheathe.


You still don't understand that I've never made an argument about stabbing in the first place which is why you are making a strawman here.

Again:

Wolverine just have to extend his claws and/or push them when his hands are already sticked to Slade. That's an auto-kill.

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You're really reaching here.


You are really Strawmaning here. \o/


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Wait....so pushing claws into someone is NOT stabbing?


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Supes grabbed Stroke hard enough to make him "URK!", why the ff didn't work then? stick out tongue Certainly a considerable force was applied.


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Wait....so pushing claws into someone is NOT stabbing?


Grabbing doesn't equals to punching the same way than thrusting your claws into someone isn't the same as pushing them.


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Not enough to Pierce the skin though. Obv there's a threshold under which it Does not work.

http://lamerciepark.com/comics/deathstroke/#section2

But if it can break the skin it would work.


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Grabbing doesn't equals to punching the same way than thrusting your claws into someone isn't the same as pushing them.


Stilt, is this true? Pushing claws into someone isn't like stabbing???


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Stilt, is this true? Pushing claws into someone isn't like stabbing???


Sure, pal.

Pushing = Striking.

Oh wait ! Or not !


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By the way Darksaint, for your information:

http://www.oxfordreference.com/view...199541430-e-846

definist fallacy

The illicit insistence on defining a term in a way that is favourable to one's own side of an argument. ...


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