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What kind of proof would I have to provide for the claim I made? (i.e. that from my experience people are generally not too sensitive, but instead the people crying about political correctness say outrageous and horrible things that I don't think they should say)

That's my point. Because the topic is subjective and because your claim is based on your subjective view of the matter, you cannot provide any more proof than I can provide. I take the exact opposite side of this matter but I can't make a better argument than yours.


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Ok, good talk.


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The democrats don't have a chance in hell this year. You really think people are going to vote for Hill if she gets nominated?If its Trump vs Hill, Trump will be elected.


Hasn't she consistently been polling much higher than any Republican candidate?


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Hasn't she consistently been polling much higher than any Republican candidate?


She has: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ntial_race.html

Although polls at this stage are really mostly meaningless.


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She has: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ntial_race.html

Although polls at this stage are really mostly meaningless.


Those polls are inaccurate and they don't show her barley beating sanders.


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Those polls are in accurate.


Yeah? Why do you think so?


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I edited above.


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Those polls are inaccurate and they don't show her barley beating sanders.


She doesn't barely beat Sanders. She is ahead by 30+ percentage points:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ation-3824.html


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I don't believe that, oh well, according to those polls, she's duped 55% of America into thinking she is a viable candidate. She's a crook and a fraud and is the shining example of everything wrong with American politicians and the Clinton controversy.


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The democrats don't have a chance in hell this year. You really think people are going to vote for Hill if she gets nominated?If its Trump vs Hill, Trump will be elected.

I think, as usual, you're not seeing outside of your own angle of vision. Most people in America don't care as much about Hillary's shortcomings as you do. You're also ignoring that the Republican Party as a whole has been losing the demographic struggle for America since 2000.

The Republicans aren't going to win if they keep pandering to white men at the expense of blacks, latinos, and women.


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I don't believe that, oh well, according to those polls, she's duped 55% of America into thinking she is a viable candidate. She's a crook and a fraud and is the shining example of everything wrong with American politicians and the Clinton controversy.


I know you don't like her, but you must realize that she is currently the most likely Democratic nominee, and you must realize that a large percentage of American voters do not hate her and would potentially vote for her.

It's very possible that she will be the next US president.


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Like I said, they are they stupid?


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Like I said, they are they stupid?


That's a valid opinion to hold, you just said that "democrats don't have a chance in hell this year" when in fact they have a very good chance and are leading currently.


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I think, as usual, you're not seeing outside of your own angle of vision. Most people in America don't care as much about Hillary's shortcomings as you do. You're also ignoring that the Republican Party as a whole has been losing the demographic struggle for America since 2000.

The Republicans aren't going to win if they keep pandering to white men at the expense of blacks, latinos, and women.

I disagree that they've been losing it since 2000. They definitely got killed for the first 8-10 years but they've slowly (and I mean slowly) picked up steam.


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I think, as usual, you're not seeing outside of your own angle of vision. Most people in America don't care as much about Hillary's shortcomings as you do. You're also ignoring that the Republican Party as a whole has been losing the demographic struggle for America since 2000.

The Republicans aren't going to win if they keep pandering to white men at the expense of blacks, latinos, and women.


Nah the democrats just use black people as tokens for success and exploit there sorrows, what exactly has the democrats done the last 8 years to help anyone but their party? And your wrong, did you see the election a year ago, Dems lost big.


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The Republicans look to have the same problem this election that they did last one--their candidates are more concerned with winning the party nomination and securing the support of the conservative base than they are with promoting an inclusive message that will win the middle third of American voters in a general election.

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Nah the democrats just use black people as tokens for success and exploit there sorrows, what exactly has the democrats done the last 8 years to help anyone but their party? And your wrong, did you see the election a year ago, Dems lost big.

Even if that were true, the fact is that blacks do and will continue voting overwhelmingly Democrat, as will Latinos. As for women, the Republicans haven't been doing themselves many favors.


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The Republicans look to have the same problem this election that they did last one--their candidates are more concerned with winning the party nomination and securing the support of the conservative base than they are with promoting an inclusive message that will win the middle third of American voters in a general election.



Yeah, they seem to be in a race to extremism, many of them having to back paddle their more centrist positions.

I still think Jeb Bush is most likely to win the nomination, and he also seems to me the Republican that has the best chance against Clinton and (incidentally) that I would feel most comfortable with.


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Yeah, they seem to be in a race to extremism, many of them having to back paddle their more centrist positions.

I still think Jeb Bush is most likely to win the nomination, and he also seems to me the Republican that has the best chance against Clinton and (incidentally) that I would feel most comfortable with.


I would agree with this but I think Rubio can do some good as well. I really like Carson but I don't think he'll gain much traction.


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The Republicans look to have the same problem this election that they did last one--their candidates are more concerned with winning the party nomination and securing the support of the conservative base than they are with promoting an inclusive message that will win the middle third of American voters in a general election.


Even if that were true, the fact is that blacks do and will continue voting overwhelmingly Democrat, as will Latinos. As for women, the Republicans haven't been doing themselves many favors.


It is true, there is no other party that exploits the black vote then the democrats, while smart, its deceiving. Show me anything done for blacks other then handouts to keep them down. There are not more black people in school's and college, fact there is less.

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I would agree with this but I think Rubio can do some good as well. I really like Carson but I don't think he'll gain much traction.


Its sad that someone in this thread called him a token for the republican party. Its like if your black and not democrat, you automatically a slave for the master. Clearly this mentality holds true, as anyone who rises up, besides Obama is laughed off and dismissed.


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