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You would have to prove that Dooku didn't have his force wall up, also that has nothing to do with my post since I've already addressed that with you. Try again.
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So not following your rule I see, that you should always back your claims no matter what. Well with that you concede that Dooku didn't have a force wall up so Sidious doing what he did while mildly impressive isn't something he could do regularly or outright. Sidious is on another level than both, Windu just has a special ability that allowed him to compete and special circumstances surrounding his fight, so Sidious is definitly more skilled, and faster, and more powerful than Windu.
I can't run away from something I already won. I haven't answered because we keep going round and round in circles, on topics I've already won and you can't refute. So rather than continuously feed the troll(you) just take my victory and move on.
I did back my claim by directly comparing Dooku and Windu to Sheev. Windu has his own abilities just like anyone. Windu also took on Talzin. Dooku can't.
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How is comparing two separate instances that aren't even comparable proving Dooku had a force wall up? Saying Dooku can't take on Talzin is both speculation and irrelevant. You still didn't back your claim since nothing in your so called comparison proves Dooku had his force wall up, and you also said you don't have to prove anything showing you know you didn't prove it. I in once again.
I never made any claim about a force wall. Talzin took on his master and has been portrayed as more powerful than Dooku. You're the fool who goes on and on about force walls which can't be definitively proven either way.
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You did say that Sidious choking Dooku, implying he could do that casually. You never made any other implication to the contrary. On Dathomir he's. Take her off Sidious wins with less difficulty. In other words you can't prove a force wall was up thus your argument is crushed. Game over.
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With that you have to prove Dooku had a force wall up. If he didn't then Sidious can't do that casually or there is no evidence to suggest he can if Dooku had a force wall up. Force wall. Dooku is way to powerful to just be ragdolled by anyone including Sidious. While I agree that Sidious could EVENTUALLY break his force wall not with the ease demonstrated. Also if you were in you own home with the protection of droid bodyguards that have demonstrated to be able to contend with Jedi to a degree, and you're master or boss is over a phone or hologram, do you honestly expect him to choke you or ate to to harm you. Add to the fact you've been loyal the whole time and have done everything he asked. Would you honesty expect an attack. No you wouldn't.
She was only able to stalemate him while on a planet that amped her more than anyone else. So while she wouldn't be killed easily, she would be defeated with mid difficulty.
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No,thats a real life situation. If you,were placed in a situation(realish, we don't have the force :lol but if you were placed in that same situation, you wouldn't have a shield up. You're with your personal guards, have a lightsaber at your side, talking to someone you believe,trust you and vice versa, in your own home. You wouldn't have a force wall up.
Sidious=Talzin on Dathomir. Dathomir makes Talzin>>>>> than normal. Take her off Dathomir and she won't be able to hold her own like she did.
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I just did. Common sense says he wouldn't. He wasn't in a comabative situation either. Yes but not that fast or easy. Two different things and I suggest you read the AOTC novel where it says Yoda redirected his lightning, but far from easily.
They were stalemates in their fight. You overrate the three on one advantage. You haven't proven she was weakened so until you do that is a failure and you lose on that score.
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You call everything conjecture even when one gets canon clips and it's right there, you say conjecture or speculation so I'm not seeing what's wrong here, or anything just you being a baby.
Well Talzin wasn't weakened so I'm not seeing what the deal is with all that. She was on her own planet which boost her more than anyone else so really it took being in the heart of her power+an amp to be a stalemate to Sidious. This shows Sidious is more powerful in 1v1 scenario.
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The worst thing is you don't understand what actuall proof is. Someone shows you a difference in two similar situations and you say it's speculation. Not much else I can do except take pity on your stupidity. So this is really the same thing, and it's no point in going on and on. I win since you couldn't refute it.
Prove it. It says she might be weakened, while it says Heart of her power whcih means at her most powerful, then Dathomir is a nexus. Even if you go strictly by SOD by itself, she still isn't weakened since she was in the HEART OF HER POWER. He didn't need a 3v1 advantage to stalemate her did he? Ypu always lose Quan. You can't beat me.
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Yea I did. The difference there and then backed by common sense and actual logic, it obvious he didn't have a force wall up.
Heart of her power means at her most powerful and we've seen her perform feats on Dathomir,that she hasn't done anywhere else. To kill, not to stalemate. It's not like she did all this on her own. She had maul to give her energy and she was on her own personal nexus that amps,her more than anyone else. Sidious was justified.
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Saying Dooku can't take on Talzin is both speculation and irrelevant. You still didn't back your claim since nothing in your so called comparison proves Dooku had his force wall up, and you also said you don't have to prove anything showing you know you didn't prove it. 
but if you were placed in that same situation, you wouldn't have a shield up. You're with your personal guards, have a lightsaber at your side, talking to someone you believe,trust you and vice versa, in your own home. You wouldn't have a force wall up. 
