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Revanchiste
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Welcome to the internet Yuyo.. Yhea I was like you.. But the troll eaten my soul...

Must admit... It is painfull but when it is done, it is a self pleasure......

The troll and the goof will conquer the world !!!!!

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FreshestSlice
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We don't pretend to down French. Know that we are genuine when we say you should do the same with English.

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Revanchiste
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Facepalm.... O.K...

Well saftybear is not here? (Safty bear = peddobear before he enter the 4 chan world.. Really 4 chan = anarchy)
I'd like to talk about a serious and very delicate matter... So that nobody could Go back to the main topique.

Let's go translate this and you will be astonnished.. and yhea that is my personnal opinion... And nobody in the occident want to hear this.... SO I had to trash a topic to begin this one anyway.. I could not created without being bann or kicked...

La moralité.. C'est vrai qu'on est dans un gros état avec une bonne
grosse vieille morale Catholique, je suis un extremiste qui pense que la
vérité s'obtient par la confrontation des points de vu, et dans le cas
de la pratique sexuelle, des points de vu sanitaires, des point de vue
sur les conséquence, etc etc... Et du point de vu moral je pense que
notre bonne vieille opinion chaste chatolique peut se rembarrer là où je
pense sans muvais jeux de mots
Il y a quelques années l'homsexualitée était un pêché, j'ai bien dit pêché et non crime...
Je suis ouvert à des baisses de limittes d'âge sur la majoritée sexuelle (parce que rule 34 e621, e-hentai et une tonne de site pornos internet quoi...)
A une ouverture de débat sur l'éthique de la zoophilie ou plutôt zoosexualitée ( chez mamifères)... Je suis sérieux... Je parle de sexe consentant. Ours primates chien en particulier. Juste ouvrir le débât...

J'ai juste horreur que l'ont me dicte comment penser....

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Revanchiste
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And since it is important , I mean it my voice screaming ou the Darkness of our society.... Our very own moralitry.
And don't let your sexual taste influence you..

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juyomaster34
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What are you talking about???
So its okay to name call.
But its wrong to defend yourself?
I don't care what you are, if myself, and millions of others can't understand what you're writing
we will tell you french,american,who ever .

Again,you misunderstood my reply.
This started by calling me a name.
Yet you spell insults in english,well but everything else is,not so well.

But yet these followers follow your insults.
And they are too scared to tell you the truth,that you Revanchiste are wrong.
I'm not disrespecting any race. Let's get that clear.

You're only excuse is that you're french?
But you can spell dumb ass,in english?
It's okay to follow this foolishness,right?

It's okay to attack me in groups of misguided pics and insults.
My english is not R.I.P.
I don't need ridiculous pics to voice my opinion.

Well,It's not okay,I'm not afraid of anyone.
If you're wrong whether american,chinese,hispanic,french,you're just wrong.
I'm not gonna allow any of you to disrespect me or bully me.

Bring your groups,bring your ridiculous,uneducated,and meaningless pics.
If my haters are so smart,then why do you follow ignorance and glorify it?
My name is Juyomaster34,not Yuyo.

If the owners of this web site decide to restrict my page then,I will understand.
As long as my attackers get the same treatment.
But look at my replies and look at theirs and juge for yourself.

Before you make that decision.
If I'm wrong then I'll accept it like a man, not like some little boy,or a coward.
If I'm right then it is,what is. No harm. No foul.

I'm a leader,not a follower.
In pass debates I have always done what was right,whether I'm right or wrong.
To the creator of this topic,I tried to voice my opinion to your topic,
and sadly got crucified for my so called twisted,broken, R.I.P. english of opinions.

Yet it's justified to follow a misguided person and glorify the ignorance that was displayed
on your topic. To slick /sly call me in little or poorly misguided broken english,a racist is insulting.
I did not display that type of ignorant behavior.

All I said was Revanchiste needs to learn how to spell.
Again,if you spell in plain english for everyone to read,dumb ass
And the rest of what you're saying is in broken french or whatever,then something is wrong.

You're only excuse is,again I'm french?
That doesn't excuse your ignorance of calling me a name,when I was only voicing my
opinion about Yoda's species from another topic.

Then the "followers of Ignorance" follow me to your topic and voice their misguided opinions.
With ridiculous pics and childish rants.
I lashed out in self defense.

My teacher rant was only explaining what jugular means and my way of using it in a sentence.
So I apologise for my furious replies on your topic.
In future references I will do my best to ignore BS and stay on topic.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Revanchiste
And since it is important , I mean it my voice screaming ou the Darkness of our society.... Our very own moralitry.
And don't let your sexual taste influence you..


what the ****?


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LMFAO


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Revanchiste
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Registered: Oct 2014
Location: France/Rezée (near Nantes)


 

Only excuses? Ho was just to lazy to translate my perfectly written french argumentation, according that even in french it still rare that I am able to write so cleanly...

I know my weakness and since they make me a pretty colorfull character I do not hide them..

Don't try to play the superior one.... I just saw an easy opening that allow me to stab you in the back.. A nice a sweet sadic shot in the back....
This is second degree reactions. Stay one step back to the topic and you will not be armed...

To be clear with you I'm not ignorant and full of self awarness (Except when my "délire" has gone too fare") I just don't play too much serious stuff, je m'offre des petis délires vois-tu? Ha comment reformuler ça en anglais...? Typicaly french attitude. Just play dumb. I am independant and I don't like when people tel me how to think..., but I'm not an initiative guy, so I just sacarsticly follow before reavling my own opinion...
After 4 years on the net I am kinda ready to go on 4chan.
30s later.
Why this? Why the life? Why the car? He just **** the cars... An entire parking I'm going to take a cold shower...

You see I write as I speak. And I have a kinda little sen of humor that I keep with me. In the deepest of My heart I do not blame you...
But Since blaming you is fun I DO. MWOUHAHAHAHAHA I WAS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS AND YOU RUN IN MY TRAP !!!!!!!

As you see I love doing over the top reaction.


Carthage XD. Noby dare t translate my text... (And I have tasted google translate it suck...)
But If you translate it.. Huuuuuuuuuuummmm........

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Re: Name for the form that combines all aspects of jedi lightsaber dueling?

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Demenos
if you combined all types of lightsaber dueling from shii-cho to vaapad from sus-ma to trakata and gave it a name what would it be?


Niman.


When you try and combine everything, you get... the hybrid form.


Toss an offensive form and a defensive form onto a hybrid form, and you still have a hybrid form that's balanced between offense and defense.


quote: (post)
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Isn't this what Juyo and Vaapad are?


No, while the 'final' forms they're both quite aggressive ones. They require a high degree of skill to make work, but they aren't as mixed as Niman, which contains elements of all the prior forms blended.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Revanchiste
Facepalm.... O.K...

Well saftybear is not here? (Safty bear = peddobear before he enter the 4 chan world.. Really 4 chan = anarchy)
I'd like to talk about a serious and very delicate matter... So that nobody could Go back to the main topique.

Let's go translate this and you will be astonnished.. and yhea that is my personnal opinion... And nobody in the occident want to hear this.... SO I had to trash a topic to begin this one anyway.. I could not created without being bann or kicked...

La moralité.. C'est vrai qu'on est dans un gros état avec une bonne
grosse vieille morale Catholique, je suis un extremiste qui pense que la
vérité s'obtient par la confrontation des points de vu, et dans le cas
de la pratique sexuelle, des points de vu sanitaires, des point de vue
sur les conséquence, etc etc... Et du point de vu moral je pense que
notre bonne vieille opinion chaste chatolique peut se rembarrer là où je
pense sans muvais jeux de mots
Il y a quelques années l'homsexualitée était un pêché, j'ai bien dit pêché et non crime...
Je suis ouvert à des baisses de limittes d'âge sur la majoritée sexuelle (parce que rule 34 e621, e-hentai et une tonne de site pornos internet quoi...)
A une ouverture de débat sur l'éthique de la zoophilie ou plutôt zoosexualitée ( chez mamifères)... Je suis sérieux... Je parle de sexe consentant. Ours primates chien en particulier. Juste ouvrir le débât...

J'ai juste horreur que l'ont me dicte comment penser....


... why the *heck* are you going on about your willingness to defend Zoophilia? What does that have to do with anything?


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Niman.


When you try and combine everything, you get... the hybrid form.


Toss an offensive form and a defensive form onto a hybrid form, and you still have a hybrid form that's balanced between offense and defense.




No, while the 'final' forms they're both quite aggressive ones. They require a high degree of skill to make work, but they aren't as mixed as Niman, which contains elements of all the prior forms blended.

Eh. One being more mixed didn't change the fact that it combines aspects of all previous forms.


As to whatever else is going on above, lulz.

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Eh. One being more mixed didn't change the fact that it combines aspects of all previous forms.


Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.


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Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.


Yep Galen Marek would switch from Juyo to Soresu when on the defense. If Juyo incorporated all other forms he wouldn't need to do that.

Also I believe Juyo incorporates elements of Form V, but not necessarily the Djem So variant which is still the most strength based form and specific for fencing.

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Yep Galen Marek would switch from Juyo to Soresu when on the defense. If Juyo incorporated all other forms he wouldn't need to do that.

Also I believe Juyo incorporates elements of Form V, but not necessarily the Djem So variant which is still the most strength based form and specific for fencing.



Mm, calling it Djem So rather than the other variant is my call, but it seems to fit with Juyo's aggressiveness.


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Juyo/Vaapad's not really described as combining aspects of all previous forms, are they? Like, I don't think there's any Soresu.

Wookiepedia says Juyo uses parts of Djem So and Ataru.

Well as to why would Marek switch to Soresu, it's obviously more proficient. I'll hardly claim to be an expert on Lightsaber styles outside of Form V, though.

Either way, not really a big fan of Niman, for obvious reasons. So if that's the jack-of-all trades style, which it is described as, I'll pass.

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Part of what it boils down to is, a large part of each style is simply their approach, and you cannot have more than one approach to combat at the same time. Be it offensive, defensive, or poised to switch between them. You can't actually be on both the offensive and defensive at the same time, so blending styles inevitably results in a jack-of-all-trades style.


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