I think it's pretty obvious that Carver is (shabbily) referring to the impact that creates the universe-breaking vergences, not the origin point of the expanding vergences themselves.
I provided a clip and yes, the shockwave's was slinging both Beerus and Goku but it did nothing at all to the Kais who were on the other side of the Universe.
They flew back once when they collided with their fists... That began the universal destruction.. They next hit it shows up close after they connect has the same explosion light and neither are flung back... Solo. Also the kai are in different dimension not the other side of the universe. You don't die and end up on the other side of the universe
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The Kais said that if the hits continued, they would've died as well. Also, the humans below Goku and Beerus did not budge from the same impact that threw Beerus and Goku. They were slung more than once though. Let me look at the episode again.
Yes, they would have destroyed more than the universe though. More like the whole fabric of reality in universe 7. Because the gods are in the land of the dead. Not a place you can fly a ship too.
There are a lot of far away shots after they punch but the next time it shows them for a extended period right before Goku plot devices it to stop they aren't thrown back.
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Champa flew to the Kais planet though and the land of the dead? When did the Kai planet become part of heaven and hell?
The Shockwaves would've been more devastating when it reached the Kais. Which again proves that Goku and Beerus felt more of the attack. Hell, both of them were pouting and screaming after each blow.
Since Goku couldn't stay in land of the living anymore yet went to Kaioshin planet. And also when he went back to the afterlife he felt Gohan because he was in the afterlife realm.
Also whis and vado traverse universe 6 & 7. And Beerus and Whis went to king Kais planet. .. So they can travel anywhere.
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I don't think it's correct to compare them as directly as one would compare two ordinary Super Saiyan forms.
SSGSS is a Super Saiyan transformation that possesses the godly power of SSG, but it is not the same as SSG. SSG is distinctly different; unlike SSGSS it can't be maintained or used without a ritual, but it boasts qualities like high-speed regeneration, space-breathing, and the fact that it's power increases as it's pushed to it's limits. Again, SSGSS is a Super Saiyan transformation that possesses the godly power of Goku's SSG without a time limit, but it lacks some of the transformation's unique qualities and instead operates as a normal Super Saiyan form.
As for which is superior, IMO it boils down to this: SSGSS Goku possesses the same power that SSG Goku wielded against Beerus, but without a time limit or need for a ritual. So in that sense, he's stronger now than he was before. However, SSG is the stronger transformation because of it's unique qualities, most notably it's more vast potential.
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What the hell? Are there two versions of the show?
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But Vegeta was able to stay in the land of the living as long as he wanted. There's nothing pointing to the Kais planet being the land of the dead. Nothing.
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