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Nope.

That would be BRB or Quasar. Quasar's 'highs' sh|t all over most anyone on any of the teams. I'm talking blocking an attack from Thanos wielding the Infinity Gauntlet, creating a dome so powerful a small army of super humans couldn't break (Hulk, Thing, Wonderman, and more were included in that team), bringing a Rogue Watcher to his knees before Stranger jumped in and interrupted the fight, holding off Galactus by himself for a few while the FF did their thing, creating a solar flare that dwarfed an entire planet, etc...


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and classic quasar has precious few low showings, though of course everyone has a couple.... it's part of the reason that annihilus showing was such a load of sh!t imo (on MULTIPLE occasions they have been said to be a source of infinite power, so no way anni should have been able to drain him like he did--idiotic, but they were trying to give nova his moment....). the q-bands seem to be getting their proper due again in marvel though. can't say i'm crazy about the choice of the new quasar though, but maybe i'll be surprised.

@delta--i've not seen him bring in older models in recent avengers i don't think. given the number of avengers books and IM appearances, i can be forgetting though or may have simply missed it.....


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This is one very interesting. In the case of the U's vs. A's, it's all about who can force favorable match ups. The A's have the collective power advantage while the U's have the tactical advantage which could result in them getting the match ups they need. Gladiator and Bill are hot heads.

Ronan is > Black Panther, but Panther will work him and stay alive.
Monica has the ad over Gladiator due to radiation and intangibility in light form.
Quasar doesn't match up well against Monica or Carol.
Bill could be deadly to Monica due to Stormbreaker.
Blue Marvel could be one of the few characters in comics that has an advantage over Silver Surfer as Antimatter is not part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
MAC could hold her own against Gladiator or Bill as could Binary.
Surfer couldnt haphazardly blast CM.
Finally, Surfer could conceivably gain control over Monica, although this is in theory.


I'm betting that the Ults strategy would involve removing Gladiator much like Thanos did.


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Quasar doesn't match up well against Monica or Carol.

BAV, this is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what would happen. He's already one shot bubbled up Binary and she couldn't escape. His Quantum Bands would OWN Monica. They give him complete mastery over energy in the EM spectrum. Quasar would solo Monica AND Binary.


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preach brother! lol


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BAV, this is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what would happen. He's already one shot bubbled up Binary and she couldn't escape. His Quantum Bands would OWN Monica. They give him complete mastery over energy in the EM spectrum. Quasar would solo Monica AND Binary.



Scans?


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Don't kid yourself, Annihilus from that arc would have wrecked BM just as easily. Even Nova Prime had to run away.

Quasar would literally drink Monica and use her to amp his energy attacks and wipe out the majority of Team Ultimates.

Hell, Quasar has even bubbled up Binary form Ms. Marvel before and she was helpless to break free!
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whoopsie!

Team Annihilators stomp.


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I saw him contain her to force her to talk. Where is the "one shot?" And what came next in the sequence? Looks like someone is about to punch him in the face. Anyway, see nothing to back up your claim. Containing is not soloing. Why couldn't Binary simply absorb the energy construct? How long could he hold her?


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I saw him contain her to force her to talk. Where is the "one shot?" And what came next in the sequence? Looks like someone is about to punch him in the face. Anyway, see nothing to back up your claim. Containing is not soloing. Why couldn't Binary simply absorb the energy construct? How long could he hold her?

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"You couldn't even break out of one of my Quantum bubbles".

Next question?


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"You couldn't even break out of one of my Quantum bubbles".

Next question?


Can you please show the next sequence rather than skipping around? Obviously she did something very impressive. So perhaps he can successfully contain her, doesn't mean she can't come up with a counter in a future encounter. Doesn't make sense that he could do that to her, either.


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Doesn't his current armor allow him to bring in like all his previous armors to fight?


Kinda-sorta what it looked like...

Reminds me a bit of that IM S2 armor from the 90s cartoon.


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Can you please show the next sequence rather than skipping around?

You saw all you needed to see. He bubbled her up and she couldn't break out. He even says "my Quantum Bands prevented you from making a vortex hole like you did inside the Sun". End of story.

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Obviously she did something very impressive.

Yes, she opened up a "white hole" in the Sun that gobbled up all the anti-matter from the Shi'ar doomsday weapon. Still doesn't change the fact that she couldn't break out of Quasar's Quantum Bubble.

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So perhaps he can successfully contain her, doesn't mean she can't come up with a counter in a future encounter. Doesn't make sense that he could do that to her, either.

Doesn't have to make sense. It's comics.


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lol why anyone bothers is an utter mystery to me.... laughing out loud


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Seriously now though, what characters have a good chance at resisting (or perhaps even no-selling) Xavier's TP here?


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Seriously now though, what characters have a good chance at resisting (or perhaps even no-selling) Xavier's TP here?

Uhm, Surfer?


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Ah, Glass Jaw Surfer.

Tony and Bolt would DP him harder than Asa Akira gets on her hardest work day.


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Ah, Glass Jaw Surfer.

Tony and Bolt would DP him harder than Asa Akira gets on her hardest work day.

One word : Quasar.
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Mind-messer?


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Uhm, Surfer?

Charles would mindrape Surfer like nothing.


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Mind-messer?

Yeah, Quasar is immune to mind-phuckery thanks to the Q-bands.
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Charles would mindrape Surfer like nothing.

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Yeah, I got that much from the scan, but was that mindmesser Quasar's referencing some kind of a device or a villain or...?


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