Cinemascore audiences gave The Last Jedi an A, on the A+ to F scale. These are people who just exited and saw the movie. I don't trust audience scores on Rotten Tomatoes any more than I trust the user scores on IMDB because they are manipulated by trolls who don't even see the films. Remember when IMDB gave Suicide Squad a perfect 10 rating by users - before the movie even came out?
The people trolling The Last Jedi are no different than the trolls on the prequel trilogy - a loud minority who relish the attention their obnoxious behaviour brings them and just keep it going as long as others engage them.
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I don't trust audience scores on places like RT or Metacritic at all, they are worth less than nothing to me. At least with the critic scores, you know the critic had to write a review in which they explain why they liked or disliked the movie. For the audience score, there's no way of knowing if a person gave a poor rating because of a valid criticism or something stupid like the movie having too many women or something.
it felt like a classic star wars film to me because it advanced a compelling narrative [as opposed to depicting events of which we already knew the outcome 35 years ago], in an unpredictable fashion, while not leaning on older SW plots like TFA clearly did. the only post-OT films that did this for me was TFA (well...sort of) and phantom menace, and as with TPM there were crappy parts which i had to suffer through in order to enjoy the overall film. jar jar became rose, pod racing became camel racing casino, etc.
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Last edited by Bashar Teg on Jul 4th, 2018 at 01:03 PM
On the surface this makes sense. It is how I originally came at things.
Then I started to notice a trend. Some movies I thought were awesome...got good reviews by audiences and bad reviews by critics. Some movies I thought were terrible were praised by critics.
I was forced to conclude that, at least when it comes to my own tastes, the audience score is far more likely to indicate whether or not I'd enjoy a film.
With that said, if there was a movie I really was looking forward to and it got bad audience scores...I wouldn't avoid it based on that.
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Yeah, that makes sense, I usually end up agreeing with the critic consensus more than the audience one for whatever reason.
Still when it comes to audience score type metric, I think IMDB is probably a bit more reasonable than RT or MC, seems to be less prone to the stupid campaigns to try and ruin a movie's score and what not. Like on there Last Jedi is at a 7.2 or something, which is a decent score, but reflects that a decent number of people did not like it.
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James Mangold warns that if these fan trolls won't STFU and stop whining about how they know better than the filmmakers and the studio, there won't be top tier talent coming to make the movies and TV series anymore, because who wants this kind of abuse?
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