I am just amazed TYT have lasted this long. I want to know what kind of sorcery they used to keep themselves afloat.
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__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
In other words: the blackest of all magicks. Yep, this called for a magick with a K. It is that dastardly.
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Ben Carson: proof you can be a surgeon without being a scientist. Owned by Sam Harris.
"It's even more courageous to do it on twitter". Holy shit get this man a beer.
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I think I had seen most of that interview before. Sam schooled that dude pretty hardcore and he shows no signs of bigotry or defamation as he is accused of, just intelligent criticism.
This is perhaps a bit off topic, but it's related to Ben Carson being a scientist who doesn't believe in evolution. This guy's "Debunking Creationists" videos are excellent...
Ben Carson is also the guy who more or less tried to claim he cured his cancer with "alternative medicine" lol. You would think they wouldn't let someone doctor anymore if they don't seem to believe in things like evolution and yet believe in magical cancer cures.
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Re: Re: Sam Harris Slaughters Christianity
Oh I love that guy's website.
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Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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He's implying that Harris doesn't understand non-moral uses of the word "good" and "bad." Ridiculous. The rest is a bunch of abstract mumbo-jumbo that didn't make any sense to me. I haven't seen Harris' side of the argument, so I don't know if he was representing his claims accurately. I also haven't read The Moral Landscape yet.
But I feel like in order to say that there is "objective morality" you have to prove the existence of God (and provide better evidence than The Bible says he exists or the Quran says he exists). The truth is there is no God to take moral stances other than our own brains. If there is a Supreme Ruler of the Universe then we should go back to having monarchies because that is after all how the universe is run. The point is democracy is an improvement over monarchy, so therefore democratic morality is the only way to go.
Anyone still convinced that we as humans get our morality from the Bible or some other "holy book," needs to read a chapter or two out of The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I think it's Chapter 6. He makes quite an obvious case for the fact that we definitely do not derive our morals from the Bible (in particular). It's a really good chapter. I'll summarize a quotation he uses in the book...
Basically the Bible is perfect instruction for "ingroup morality," that seems more interested in genocide, enslavement, and world domination. And this is not why the Bible is evil, necessarily. No book is evil just because it seems to propagate murder, cruelty, and rape. Plenty of other books do that, like the Iliad, Icelandic Sagas, etc. But for some reason the Bible is sold to us as a moral instruction book by which we should pattern our lives. And it is the world's all-time best seller.
It's disturbing to hear a Christian say that if it turned out God wasn't real then life is utterly meaningless.
Bill O Reilly was espousing an idea like that. Then again he also thought that the tides are controlled by magic.
There are even crazy people who have hinted they would basically become rapists and murderers if they found out there was no God. Though those are a small minority.
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The only way I know how not to abuse, murder, and rape others is because an imaginary father figure in the sky is telling me not to. People with very deep convictions, obviously. One would think that by God's example in the Bible that he would encourage such behavior by his existence, and his non-existence would discourage such behavior. And one point that Dawkins brings up is that even stuff like the 10 Commandments were more of an in-group morality. It wasn't necessarily disallowed to do those things to others outside the group.
I like the style of the argument, it's of a rare aesthetical beauty, though the validity of the claim is left to the beholder.
For example, we can consider that democracy works because we have an statistical value filthered out by several generations on education and systematical improvements. Statistics work on a framework where things can be compared and are relative. God being absolute (by some definitions) throws that out of the window. Let alone that the imperfection of our morality compared to a night omniscient being schews the odds terribly when it comes to democracy vs monarchy.
The comparison also undermines the problem of representation. Yes, democracy is a system but ultimately its fate is decided by the quality of representation you can get on your ruler. Because decisions are only made by individuals and not systems, hence there is always someone at the top, guiding and making actual decisions. Translating this issue towards morality only goes to probe why morality is so complex and culturally based.
It's not all of them, but I expect they are in a bad mood because of the power religion wields in this country(and the world).
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I have no idea what statistics has to do with anything. Sorry, none of that resonates at all with me.
The simple fact remains that our "holy books" that claim to be from God contain the most asinine moral codes and we as rational beings have naturally adjusted our moral codes despite these "holy books" (as seen by the decrease in slavery, and stoning of adulterers, etc). So democratic rational has largely taken over and is rendering the Bible and other "holy books" obsolete.
I just took his comment as unintelligent trolling (in which case it seems a bit hypocritical), so I didn't intend to dignify it with a response. To me ridiculous comments like those of Pat Robertson condemning whole communities to hell on God's behalf for "turning their backs on God" seems to contain quite a bit more "whiny a-hole-ness" than I've ever seen an atheist convey.
I didn't say I don't care about statistics. I don't understand the point you were trying to make with it.
With this, I think you are pointing out that even in a democracy there are still select few representing the thoughts and feelings of the majority. Well, that's the case in our current forms of democracy, but in a true, properly functioning democratic republic the people should have more and better ways of collaborating and deliberating on important issues instead of electing people to decide for us. And yes, we do still vote on certain topics, but that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about public spheres where people get together and iron out issues that then feed into the government at large. It would be a government truly run by the people.
We don't have such public spheres, at least not here in the United States.
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