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Originally posted by Robtard
Um, have you read even parts of the Torah/Old Testament?

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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Well, yeah, that's bad. lol. But for whatever reason we don't see Jews committing the atrocities that Islamic folks do. At least not around the globe, perhaps more locally in the Middle East because that's just a shitstorm, but there's no "global Jihad" of Judaism.

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Well, yeah, that's bad. lol. But for whatever reason we don't see Jews committing the atrocities that Islamic folks do. At least not around the globe, perhaps more locally in the Middle East because that's just a shitstorm, but there's no "global Jihad" of Judaism.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Well, some would argue that the apartheid-like move Israel is doing with the Palestians is pretty terror-y.

But that aside, wouldn't that show that it's people and what they choose to do/not do with written words and not the religion?

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Originally posted by Robtard
But that aside, wouldn't that show that it's people and what they choose to do/not do with written words and not the religion itself?

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The religion itself does command global jihad. "Islamic Extremists" are not following doctrines that are only on some fringe outskirts of the religion. It is mainstream Islam. It's not some misinterpretation or distortion. It is Islam.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Can you actually show this? Cos the Pope, who is an astute study of world religions denies this. He's said terrorist are not following the doctrines of Islam correctly. They're following their own skewed interpretations.

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech

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The believers who stay at home--apart from those that suffer from a grave impediment--are not the equal of those who fight for the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God has given those that fight with their goods and their persons a higher rank than those who stay at home. God has promised all a good reward; but far richer is the recompense of those who fight for Him .... He that leaves his dwelling to fight for God and His apostle and is then overtaken by death, shall be rewarded by God .... The unbelievers are your inveterate enemies."

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(The words of the Quran quoted in Red for the blood of infidels it intends to spill; praise be to Allah). "Inveterate enemies." That doesn't sound like it's preaching peace to me. You can do all sorts of verbal gymnastics to justify it, but the meaning is clear and it's not peace with non-believers.


I really am astonished that people can defend this religious bullshit and not admit to themselves and others that we (as humans) would be far better off without it. It's astonishing.

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The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that they are not necessarily restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God. Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Islam apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally don't stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

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Originally posted by Robtard
[B]But this "it's Islam!" mentality is silly and imo, lazy and dangerous. Alienating the majority of Muslims is what terrorist groups desire.

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Originally posted by Apparently_a_Nazi
It's not just *Jews*. It's irrational belief in general. *Judaism* is just a particularly virulent and dangerous strand of irrationality.