__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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1. He gets up from a sitting posistion, RUNS at Faora, and throws an overhand left which would have hit had Faora not side-stepped him. All in less than a second. There is no way hell that is all just one move.
2. The fact that Lois didn't move an inch with warlord's arm draped around her shoulders means he took care to ensure her safety. Hell, the fact that he was able to close in that fast and grab a target, and only that target, of roughly 4 square feet behind a human shield requires super human hand-eye coordination and reaction time. And in the time between he grabbed the warlord and hit the wall, Kal was able to prevent the warlord's death when he should just be a red stain. Again, high reaction times.
3. Running at those speeds and having control would be impossible for a human. It's also a more "complex maneuver" than raising an arm to block something. Far more muscle groups and even the vestibular system have to get involved for you to run. The fact that he can run at superhuman speeds is an undeniable proof of him being able to do complex things at super speed.
4. Like I said: The point is the ease with which he caught it. He has reacted to environments coming at him faster than that grenade so I don't even consider it his best reaction feat.
You also seem to have a hard on for the word "multiple". Can you post clips of Diana knocking multiple bullets our of the air simultaneously?
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He or she appears to have a hard on for the words "complex maneuvers." I can guarantee if Thor or Ghost Rider did the same moves at the same speed, or even at less speed, they would still be considered complex maneuvers at super speed.
1. So basically he runs forward and punches someone. Yeah... that's not complex at all. Even a toddler could do that. Granted, not as fast or as efficient as Superman but it still means it's not complex. Nothing like stringing together a combination of punches or avoiding a string of hits.
2. You get hit at extreme speeds the tendency is for your arms to fly open. There literally is no proof that he actually stopped to remove the thug's arm around from Lois' neck. If that was true then Superman would be a cold blooded murderer, because if you had the control to remove his arm around her neck at super speed then why did you have to ram him into a wall? Such precise control like that implies that Superman could easily have just subdued him with an arm lock.
3. I never said any human could run at those speeds, much the same way a human cannot block bullets with their arm guards. But the act of running is a simpler, easier movement to perform then blocking a string of projectiles coming your way. Diana didn't just "raise her hand" she had to put it in the path of the bullet, again and again, and that means being able to perceive the bullet's trajectory and being able string together different movements at speeds faster than the bullets.
4. Like I said before, characters in Arrow catch arrows all the time, with the same ease Superman showed in that clip. Thing is, arrows fly faster than RPG's. Are we going to assume that characters in Arrow are speedsters now as well?
5. I never claimed that Diana blocked multiple simultaneous bullets. Though I'm pretty sure there's probably a scene or two of that in the no-man's land fight. But that wasn't my point I was raising.
Guess you didn't bother looking up its meaning eh? Sable, if you want to continue debating with us you really need to learn how to use and understand the English language properly. I'm trying to help you out here.
The argument in question is not the speed which the action was made but its complexity.
Thus why I mentioned that even a toddler can stand up, run forward and punch someone/something. It is not a complex maneuver.
Nowhere did I claim that Superman did not do it fast or at a speed that no human can replicate. What I stated was that it was not a complex maneuver and that's why I gave the toddler example.
Do you understand now or do I have to explain it in even simpler terms?
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A toddler cannot after getting beat down by a kryptonian, speed blitz 12 feet in less then a second and throw a haymaker. A analogy is a thing that is comparable to something else in significant respects. Its not even comparable. You told me I don't understand English when it appears you don't.
Standing up after getting beat down is an aspect of durability. We're not talking about durability.
Speed blitzing someone 12 feet away in less than a second is a feat of speed. We're not talking about speed.
What we are talking about is complexity of maneuvers, in which case Superman got up, ran forward and punched. Same way a toddler is able to stand up, run forward and punch.
The toddler does not move as fast or as powerfully as Superman... but that was never the analogy here. It was simply to show that Superman's movements were not complex at all.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Yeah, I should have stuck to my decision to just ignore him. It's obvious that he's trolling and playing dumb. Either that or he's really that dumb... which is even sadder.
Calling me dumb while being on a forum since you were 17 and now 32 is rich. Owning up to what you said takes guts, passing it off as an analogy(which is isn't) then accusiing the other person of not knowing what an analogy is, is also rich.
You keep claiming he has no complex maneuvers after being given multiple examples but refusing to accept anything else but the same feat is childish.
From this stupid argument, Captain America, Thor or Vision wouldn't have any "complex maneuvers. "
Sure dude, whatever. You can't stick to the topic, you can't address specific questions to you, you can't understand basic analogies, you don't understand the difference between running speed and reflex speed, you misrepresent everything I say, you confuse different threads, you've started stalking me on other threads, heck you can't even do basic math to get my age right (2017 - 1984 = 33, not 32).... I really should have stopped talking to you long ago since it's clear you're only trolling. Oh well, no better time to start than the present.
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