Lmao it's trashy logic to compare their performance against a common foe?
Wait - isn't that exactly what you were trying to do to prove Snoke > Luke? I can't believe you contradict yourself this regularly, you have to be doing this on purpose.
This is the most powerful version of DCEU Superman, so we're talking about Justice League Superman, not the one fighting Doomsday (who had just been weakened by kryptonite, mind you).
Strawman. The question is who did better, not whether Superman "critically injured" anyone. Neither Snoke nor Luke critically injured Rey either. Anyone with functioning vision can tell that Superman did better against Steppenwolf than Wonder Woman did.
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Superman is stronger and more durable than WW. Neither WW or Superman significantly hurt Steppenwolf.
That and the fact Luke cut himself off from the force for years. You're using an irrelevant feat that kills him which takes place on a force nexus.
He initially wasn't weakened and Doomsday shared the same weakness. Doomsday is more powerful and stronger than Superman. I guess each film is a different version according to you because you say so.
Snoke proved he could defeat her any time he wanted. Disarmed her, ripped intel out of her, and left he completely helpless. Superman didn't do any of these things. Well he and the combined effort of the team disarmed Steppenwolf. Superman also fought with a team against the the bad guy.
Strawmen about how whether Superman killed Steppenwolf himself or not, the notion that Wonder Woman did as well as Superman against Steppenwolf is one of the most delusional things you've said yet (and you've said quite a few). Steppenwolf was winning against the combined Justice League until Superman shows up, and then suddenly he can't even lay a finger on him. You lose, please go home and think of some other character to troll.
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Do not misinterpret what I did say to help out your biased and delusional subservience to Superman.
Superman is faster, stronger, and more durable than WW but despite his physical superiority in relation to WW neither did any significant damage to Steppenwolf. Superman's interactions were far shorter with the villain but just because he looked more impressive to you don't conflate that with actually having a detrimental impact on Steppenwolf's actual health.
That's a function of Steppenwolf's durability vs. Superman's punching power. But since you already think Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman, it's a moot comparison. That Steppenwolf is very durable has nothing to do with Superman vs. Wonder Woman, given that Superman knocked out Wonder Woman with a single hit earlier.
If a headbutt with a little bit of leverage KO's Wonder Woman, what about a hypersonic flying charge into her?
BTW, you tried to mock Superman for getting slightly annoyed by Wonder Woman's headbutt but then say Steppenwolf wasn't harmed at all when he was knocked around several floors just because you don't see blood. Seriously, how do you manage to contradict yourself every single time you make a post?
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^ oh, and I still find it hilarious that you downplay Superman already beating Wonder Woman because WW was "just trying to restrain him", but then Luke vs. Rey is supposed to be an indication that Skywalker is weaker than Snoke...even when he was just trying to restrain her. Once again, you have no capacity of internal consistency at all.
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WW's intent and the fact she is weaker in terms of durability clearly matters. So Superman being stronger doesn't undermine any of my points since I've always stated as much.
He head butted her twice and is stronger and more durable. She has to rely on her skill and weaponry so in a direct contest locked up with Superman while trying to talk reason into him won't end well for her. It's like using an arm wrestling matchup as proof Superman beats her in a fight.
You acted like it didn't hurt him at all. It did. It's to the degree you're arguing which is utter fanboyism. Superman is stronger and more durable than she is. Nothing I have said is being contradicted here.
Steppenwolf wasn't harmed in any detrimental manner so it's about the degree. He was clearly affected just not significantly. Pay attention to what specific words I use and what I'm arguing not your blatant mispresentation of my argument.
Once again you misrepresent what my points are so at least your consistent. My point wasn't that Rey proved superiority over Luke and that she'd win. It was that in relation to Snoke and Luke in comparison to Rey when she's attacking Snoke looks vastly superior. Both disarm her but Snoke force rapes her at will. Luke uses the force but to keep himself from falling. Which is more impressive to you ? Be honest for a change because I find your misreprentations distasteful and dishonest.
*sigh* Steppenwolf's durability is irrelevant because we're talking about fighting skill. Unless you can prove WW has the same durability as him, whether he was injured by Superman is irrelevant. BTW I've said this like five times but you just aren't very quick at picking things up, so hopefully sixth is the charm for you.
If Wonder Woman's superior skill were enough to overcome Superman's...everything, she would've gotten in more hits for the damage she took against Steppenwolf. She didn't. Despite her fighting skill Steppenwolf was tossing her around, but despite Clark's allegedly inferior skill Steppenwolf couldn't lay a finger on him. Clearly Clark >>>>>
ROFLAMO!!!!!
Do you know why WW was locked up and couldn't use any of her skill against Superman?
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Because Supes speedblitzed her and grabbed her wrists. Tell me why he can't do that again? What does martial arts have to do with Superman being 1000000 times faster again?
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She did get in more hits than Superman did iirc. Steppenwolf is physically more impressive than she is. He wasn't beyond her skill and is also more skilled than Superman. Superman is faster, stronger, and more durable than both.
We see her against Doomsday cut a limb off Superman clearly wasn't able to. He needed help a knite spear to kill him and he also died.
She isn't going to tell him to stop and try to reason with her. By your same trashy logic Superman is lucky Batman wasn't trying to murder him since all he needs is knite and an upgraded suit. Intent matters, sport.
Not adjusted for the time they were fighting. WW and Steppenwolf were trading blows, with Steppenwolf having a modest advantage, even with the other JL members helping WW. Superman comes in and Steppenwolf literally can't do anything to him.
Then why would WW do any better than Steppenwolf against Supes?
How could she possibly hit Superman with that sword? When Steppenwolf tries to hit Superman he's so slow Superman perceives him as not moving at all.
Do you seriously think Clark is going to move slowly vs. a dangerous edge weapon as opposed to WW desperately trying to headbutt him? :laughing:
So what? She decides to use her bracelet power and Clark just blitzes her, and eventually KO's her. What's to stop him from doing that again?
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