Let's pretend this is still a debate, lol... because unfortunately far too many people still don't look honestly at the evidence. I think our species is doomed unless we realize our true origins and start making sense of the universe and our place in it. If we don't we're going to continue to kill each other (at worst) and delude ourselves (at best) over which book was written by God.
Creationism has a lot of things to answer for to be a viable scientific theory. Just to name a few...
1. Vestigial Structures like the appendix in humans and hip bones in whales and dolphins (not very "intelligently designed") (see video 1 below)
2. Starlight (I even had a Bible teacher in high school mention this as a baffling piece of evidence for Christians)
3. Fossil Record (less complex organisms deeper in the record, more complex more recent in the fossil record - no humans with dinosaurs, no rabbits in the Precambrian era, etc)
4. Chromosome 2 (evidence of a fusion, pretty conclusive for our relation to apes) (See video 3 below)
A couple really good introductory videos (the first is pretty short)...
Oh, and here are a few really good videos debunking Creationists, showing how dishonest and/or willfully ignorant they are about the evidence. It's deceptive and wrong...
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I mean most of the Christians I know believe God created the universe but also believe in evolution and not that God created humans as we are.
As my own personal Christian stance goes if I believe God is the creator of the universe then I believe scientific law is in a sense his direct word, so rejecting scientific fact would be blasphemous from that perspective.
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Well the point I'm making is that the two aren't necessarily diametrically opposed unless you're speaking of a particular stance of creationism.
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That's great. But unfortunately there are still many, many, many Christians who think the earth is 6,000 years old or so using the brilliant method of counting back all the genealogies in the Bible. It doesn't matter what evidence there is to the contrary. It's true because it simply has to be, because the Bible is the infallible Word of God!
Well, since you're too big of a blind idiot to infer what I'm talking about I'll spell it out for you...
Our place in the universe is on a ball of rock spinning around a ball of fire and we were fortunate enough to find ourselves here. It's a gift. And it's up to us to take control of our evolution instead of killing ourselves off by destroying the planet and killing each other over land, greed, and ideological differences.
We were not placed here by some anthropomorphic deity (as many people believe) that can just fix everything (in this life or the next) after we screw it all up.
You can't call it " a gift" that would imply that it was GIVEN to us by someone or thing. At Best all it is is pure dumb luck. Happenstance, almost more of a joke. There is no MEANING to anything. On we can PRETEND that what we do as either or both individuals or a species has some kind of meaning but in the long run, it don't mean a thing at all.
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Let him speak... what is wrong with him pointing that out?
But my question to Emperor, though, is this...
Since you clearly welcome open criticism to the Bible and everything that typical fundamental Christianity involves, and you obviously recognize that the Bible has been required to go through some serious reformations and rationalizations to make sense of its narrow-minded outlook (it's stance on slavery and primitive understanding of creation, etc) then what special pedestal does the Bible belong on? Why not just look at it like any other old piece of literature?
You know like in the South Park Episode where everybody in the future "worshiped" science and then fought and killed each other over petty differences.
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Yeah, I know the episode. It's funny. Especially the giant otters eating things on their tummies.
But it's not really true to reality. The science community is actually a very collaborative one, even worldwide. They obviously don't care about petty things like what to name the "Atheist Movement." And the things they do care about, which are scientific discoveries, they're terrified of being wrong, so they're always passing ideas on to more and more specialized fields of study. It's a very anti-dogmatic system. When was the last time we heard a scientist announce that he wants to kill non-scientists? Never. Whereas we've heard it non-stop from Muslims and even some particularly wacky (and non-reformed) Christians. Scientists don't kill people.. lol
What I never understood about the religious people who argue against evolution is that if they believe in God and feel he is all powerful then why does evolution bother them? Since God could have purposely created a universe that gives life forms a chance to evolve.
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Yeah I always found it more flattering to God to say he made something that continually improves upon itself rather than some stagnant creation.
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