If it helps you to frame it this way, there are zero deaths. If it helps you to ignore the various acts of violence and destruction committed by them, if you want to ignore some have admitted they are communists and are not patriots, if you want to ignore some have said the very existence of Trump supporters is an act of violence you go ahead and do that.
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right-wing terror victims who were mudered this year. i'll leave out all the injured so that this post won't go on for another 8 pages.
feb. 24, 2017 - kansas shooting
murdered: srinivas kuchibhotla (please log in to view the image)
march 20, 2017 - stabbing
murdered: timothy caughman (please log in to view the image)
may 26, 2017 - portland train attack
murdered: ricky john best and taliesin myrddin namkai meche (please log in to view the image)
August 12, 2017 - Vehicular attack in charlottesville
murdered: heather d. heyer (please log in to view the image)
now i'd like to see antifa's body count. but i won't. because there is none. just words and feelz.
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i think that there is a legitimate argument to be had about whether or not nazis deserve the right to demonstrate and preach their ideas. and i think that if you oppose that right then you oppose the concept of free speech, simple as that.
as chomsky says, even hitler and stalin supported free speech for ideas that they agree with.
Nazis/KKK/Alt-Right and garden variety White Supremacist do have the right to preach their views, we have freedoms and we take the good with the bad.
But people also have the right to preach against those hateful views and no amount of "if only the anti-hate protestors stayed home nothing bad would have happened" rants, as some weird way to blame the violence and death on everyone except the hate mongering White Supremacist will change that. Freedom of speech works both ways.
Of note: Why aren't those same people applying that "just stay home" logic to the Nazis as well? Weird
Pretty sure I heard "if only the anti-hate crowd stayed home nothing bad would have happened" type of rants in here. Which to me is moving the blame on the anti-hate crowd/movement while denying them their rights in kind.
If you have, I agree that is a poor stance. They do have the right of peaceful protest. I put the blame on both of them as neither shied away from violence which is terrible.
Pretty sure the victims of the car attack were non violent, they were walking around waving signs and chanting, far away from the brawl at the UtR rally. Some of them attacked the car, but that was after it crashed into another car and people.
True, but the alt-left have been attacking people. This is not a one side only type of thing. The extremes on both sides are starting to look a lot alike.
No, the point was avoided. Nobody said murder was committed.
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These so called "Alt-Left" (unless they've started calling themselves this?) reportedly attack Nazis who are violent themselves. Is it right? No. But are they the same? Hardly.
the difference between fisticuffs and murder are meaningless as far as your fee-fees are concerned.
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TBF, pepper spraying someone in the face is an act of violence. Running people over with a car and murdering them is an act of violence. Really. There is no difference.
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