What a pathetic liar. Kun was just beginning to be attacked, and begged Nadd for help right from the onset. Nadd then protected him.
Yeah, because Sheev obliterating thousands of lesser spirits and many greater spirits doesn't completely shit on Kun being overwhelmed right when his battle with the spirits had just begun, and begging for help from Nadd.
As if that is not enough, the great genius is now equating the two feats to mean that Kun>Sheev!
ROFL, is the Sheev anti-brigade made out of mentally challenged fools?
Spirits in that tomb pressed on Palpatine to determine his agenda; sounds like an attempt to probe the mind of the subject. Note that Palpatine's servants are completely unaffected in the same setting.
Secondly, Palpatine's arrogance notwithstanding, he was in no position to make those spirits subservient to his cause; an angry spirit shot back with this statement:
"how can one who has ruled only a few decades command those who held dominion for centuries?"
However, another spirit - out of respect for Palpatine's deep affinity with the Dark Side - convinced the angry spirit to give Palpatine a sign. The angry spirit obliged but left a powerful hint:
"..Or perhaps this child shall be your bright doom."
The angry spirit had foreseen Palpatine's demise....
On what grounds are you assuming that Palpatine fended off thousands of guardian spirits or so many assaulted him in the first place?
The (shared) information is valid in the context of the entirety of the valley of the Dark Lords, not a single Tomb. It suggests that the "guardian spirits" are too weak to affect living beings on their own and rather utilize corpses to assault them.
You are misreading your own sources.
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I don't give a sh*t about the LeGenDary argument above. But just to clarify. Is this seriously the fighting Force that Palpatine lost against ?
Essentially these Spirits become the the Star Wars version of the Udead. Animated corspes made from bone who probably can't use the Force in any capacity - given that even the most powerful spirits usually have to channel their powers through other Force users (people with midi-chlorians). Did Sheev really loose to this:
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Even if there are ten thousand of them fighting at once. There are concessions to be made. The idea that Palpatine can army-bust, even if his opposition are low level Force users with fleshy bodies, is now null thanks to this example.
The vaunted quote about him mastering every Force power and inventing new ones at will is blatantly contradicted, since he has to go to Korriban and plead for knowledge from the Sith spirits.
And also these Dark Lords clearly haven't gotten the memo that Sheev is supposed to be "the Dark Side's most powerful expression" or however that bullshit quote went.
To them he's just the reigning Sith Lord in a long line full of them, not the speshul uber-powerful demigod his followers masturbate to.
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Um, they should certainly be capable of using the Force after they have taken control of a vessel. The Force flows better through living tissue.
Once more, we don't know in what condition Palpatine was when the fight started. It's an ambiguous feat that can't really be used to establish any limit on his army busting capabilities. On the other hand, peak DE Sidious would lay waste to the entire planet no matter how big an army he's up against. Using this to lowball Sheev is disingenuous.
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First of all, the quote states he knew all Jedi powers so how does that contradict him not knowing something about the dark side? Second, Sheev asking the Sith spirits for knowledge doesn't mean they knew something he didn't; it only means just that: Sheev asked them for knowledge. Doesn't rule out the possibility they had nothing new to offer. And third, you apparently have no clue about the timeline of Star Wars; Palpatine's fight with the Sith spirits happened shortly after the Battle of Yavin. The quote about the Emperor knowing all Jedi powers was attributed to Dark Empire Sidious, who is a decade older than A New Hope Sidious.
That's usually what happens to those who're disconnected from society for thousands of years, yeah.
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The bone marrow is not living tissue if it belongs to a corpse of a pirate. Oxygen can not enter the cells of any part of the body when the person is dead.
You could say that about every off panel interaction/fight in the mythos. Most people here, myself included, aren't factoring this in because it's most logical to assume he visited the temples in a normal condition.
DE sids is a different kettle of fish for sure. But a lot of sheev discussion here centres around previous incarnations. This thread included as it features ROTS palps - who's suspodely weaker the 0 BBY palpaitne that visited the Korriban temple.
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It'd be a shame for you if the Audiobook depicted something different.
Sheev never even accomplished that, so you can stop that crap argument right now. More importantly, him being surprised by the dead pirates is quite different from begging Nadd to help him.
I never made that argument, get off the fentanyl.
This is the typical Sheevite response.
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