Re: Darth Tenebrous and the Galaxy Unbalancing feat
These Sith existed in an era in which midichlorians of a living being could be observed with relevant tools (and experimented with). How exactly is this an indication of superiority in strength over ancients who did not had access to similar tools?
Throughout history, scores of Force-users have defied the will of the Force by cheating death; Valkorion being the most prominent case in this matter.
What is so special about Darth Tenebrous preventing a tiny fraction of his midichlorians to be subsumed into Cosmic Force after death?
Revan kept his [ruined] body "animated" with sheer force of will, after his apparent death in a fight with an Imperial Strike Team. Revan's act of defiance was so intense that his spirit lurked separately from his animated corpse - and this [anomaly] caused a massive disturbance in the Force that could be felt from anywhere.
Flowery explanation notwithstanding, Darths Tenebrous and Plagueis were strong in the Force and really good scientists on top with the luxury to observe and experiment with midichlorians.
Perhaps some are not aware of accomplishments of Darth Scabrous:
In the dining hall, Lussk was watching the dead awaken.
He saw it with two sets of eyes: the ones he'd had when he'd been alive, and the strange new vision that the Sickness had given him. On some intuitive level he understood that the first set was fading, going blind, and that was fine with him, absolutely fine. The Sickness had given him everything he'd hoped for, everything he wanted, power and strength beyond all imagining. It had altered the midi-chlorians in his bloodstream, telescoping his natural abilities, enhancing them exponentially.
He had been here, of course, when the things burst out of the kitchen, and he'd defended himself adroitly with a series of Force pushes and acrobatic jumps while weaker and less skilled students had fallen and been devoured. Within minutes the things from the kitchen had transformed the dining hall into a charnel house of untrammeled butchery. Now the floors were slick with blood.
The newly dead were rising slowly, shuffling to their feet. Rising up with them, Lussk stared into their faces, faces that he recognized from the academy, now contorted into something utterly new. He felt no fear at the sight of them, no sense of foreboding-only a slick dark fascination.
I'm looking at my future, he thought, and shivered with anticipation. It was a good future, he realized, an endless future, a place of unfathomable possibility.
He saw it all now. The rumor was that Darth Scabrous had been experimenting with an immortality drug, a remedy for death itself, and Lussk saw now that the Sith Lord had been successful beyond his wildest dreams and most deranged nightmares. These things had transcended death. The power they held was beyond anything taught here at the academy. Before it, both Jedi and Sith were nothing, less than nothing, infinitesimal crumbs in the vast expanse of the universe.
Taken from Red Harvest
Darth Plagueis's demonstration of briefly re-animating the corpse of Darth Venamis pales in comparison to accomplishments of Darth Scabrous in relatively disadvantaged circumstances.
Darth Scabrous >>>>>
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Feb 11th, 2018 at 09:08 PM
I swear that Az's post is so stupid that he has problems in reading the text.
[Due to their role in Force interactions, altering them was singularly challenging - they had an unsettling tendency to spontaneously express unexpected and unfortunate side effects - but by applying the full analytic prowess of his vast Bith brain and the preternatural power of his Bith senses to detect and resolve sub-microscopic structure, he eventually succeeded in creating a retrovirus that would transform normal midi-chlorians into long-lived maxi-chlorians]
You see. The text flatly says that the only reason Tenebrous managed to do that was by creating a retroviruse using his Bith intellect and senses. He didn't do anything via the Force to challenge the Force's rule. Instead he did it via science(a non-Force method). He didn't do anything via his own raw power in the Force. He didn't impose his own will over the Force, so the Force didn't respond back.
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I think Red Harvest implies that Lussk can also perceive the midi-chlorians. Not only that, but in order for Scabrous to alter the properties of midi-chlorians, he has to Force-perceive them in the first place.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Last edited by Freedon Nadd on Feb 11th, 2018 at 09:57 PM
Sorry why is noticing midichlorians in your body dying impressive, when you have the likes of Soa mentally affecting people, across the galaxy, which is Far far far far far bigger, in terms of pinpointing something than pinpointing certain midichlorians.
Leave Azronger alone. He still thinks Plagueis and Sidious>ancient Sith because of that Outbalance thing. But even Malgus and his fellow have performed a similar wide-galaxy meditation to suffuse the galaxy with the power of the dark side and hinder the Jedi's Force sight.
"You were trusted to lead the Republic, but you were deceived, as our POWERS OF THE DARK SIDE HAVE BLINDED YOU…."
-Darth Malgus
What about Scabrous who could alter midi-chlorians(likely by multiplying them) to increase his own power in the Force or Sion who wouldn't let his own midi-chlorians to go into the Cosmic Force and at the same time preserving his own dead body?
What Sidious and Plagueis did pales in comparison with the prowess of the old masters. Heck, even in Dark Empire, Sidious came to them to seek a remedy for his damaged body.
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Exactly. This proves that even Vitiate is capable of such cosmic feats. As about Palpatine. It was much easier for Palpatine to hinder the Jedi's sight by himself because he and Plagueis mostly did it when they underwent that Sith meditation of suffusing the galaxy with the power of the dark side.
Note: I do not thing that Vitiate had anything to do with what Malgus said. I think Malgus said that the Sith Emperor isn't concerned with the fate of the empire. Even, so, this proves that if someone like Malgus could do that with a collective of Sith, what stops Vitiate from doing that by himself? Probably because Vitiate doesn't care about the Jedi nor the Sith, he only faced them when necessary.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Feb 11th, 2018 08:54 PM
