Isnt it hilarious the people complaining about toxic Star Wars fandom now are the very same ones who spent 15+years insulting the hell out of Lucas for the prequels.
They insulted and raged so much at Lucas that Lucas gave up. They didn't know that they had a good, coherent, enjoyable Star Wars stories until Lucas let go of the franchise. Now they got the pile of shit ST. It punished people like me who just wanted Lucas to keep telling his Space Opera stories.
Still...still....Rogue One was a good Star Wars movie. Disney deserves credit. And from what people say, The Mandalorian is good Star Wars material, too. I'll watch it all at once, later.
Yes. In fact even most those fans who did not enjoy the prequels became such fanatical fans of EU stories which were only possible by being based on the incredible world building and lore expansion that the Prequels gave us.
Yeah, there is some good stuff, and im looking forward to more. Im always looking forward to enjoying more Star Wars. Does not have to be Epic. Only good. Heck id be happy with a kids film if it expanded the Universe in great new ways for the franchise. Even if the film itself isnt that enjoyable for me.
But youre right, Karmas has had its payback. Lucas must be laughing his ass off.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Dec 24th, 2019 at 09:53 PM
Then explain how Rian's movie respected the fandom and improved the Star Wars universe.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Like many have said, Luke did not grow, he regresses.
Luke refuses to give up on his father, the same father that was a genocidal maniac that killed and hunted the innocent just for the hell of it. That was Luke in his early 20’s and a Jedi Knight.
Now fast forward, he’s this grand master, the most powerful individual in the know galaxy that had a vision of his nephew. His sisters and best friends son turning evil, and what did he do?
Luke dropped the ball. It was actually Luke’s actions that made Kylo the psycho that we all hate.
__________________ Originally posted by samhain I like how we're all morons now for liking something Disney-Star Wars related because that somehow makes KK more money.
Not at all. Never once have I said that Rian was solely to blame. Movies are a collaborative effort; of course he didn't put a gun to the Disney executives' heads and force them to give him control of the project. They hired him and gave him the green light.
But that's irrelevant within the context of the discussion. Even most Rian Johnson apologists agree that Disney largely screwed the pooch in their handling of the franchise.
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__________________ Originally posted by samhain I like how we're all morons now for liking something Disney-Star Wars related because that somehow makes KK more money.
Rise of Skywalker is honestly one of the most bizarre movies I've ever seen. The way it essentially ignores everything that came before it in the trilogy and then acts as if Palpatine being in the movie should require no explanation at all was so strange. It felt almost like a soft reboot of not just TLJ but of TFA as well. It was as if the writers thought that if all the characters in the movie acted like Palpatine being there was a reasonable and unsurprising event then the audience would as well, and not bother asking questions.
I think it's also fascinating now to watch the tug of war between the first, second and third movie of the trilogy and how the visions of both directors were obviously so far apart that the goals of the movies felt almost hostile towards one another. I've honestly never seen anything like it before in a trilogy and in 20 years will probably be a case study as to the consequences of not planning out your film series ahead of time.
Rise of Skywalker was not a boring movie by any means, but it was the most soul less Star Wars movie I have ever seen. It felt, more than any movie in the series before it, including the spinoffs, like it was just checking things off a box and was terrified of doing anything even remotely creative or thought provoking.
It was basically a masturbatory exercise in nostalgia and nothing more. Ironic seeing as the film before it attempted the exact opposite, trying to reject nostalgia for nostalgia's sake and pass the torch to the new characters in the series else the series shall become boring films that act as mechanical vehicles for little more than glorified cameos by aging actors, and that's exactly what this film was.
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TLJ wasn't an example of passing the torch, it was an example of breaking into someone's house, murdering everyone and stealing the torch.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Given what the Emperor did during the movie they might as well have brought him back as a Sith ghost or something instead, there'd be slightly less outcry about why at least. And it wouldn't have shit all over the OT.
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