^ Yeah plus his arguments on this thread have been all over the place and actually wind up placing other Marvel characters well above their DC counterparts Lol
H1 would have then claimed that Doomsday or Steppenwolf hits were in the 100 billion ton range, while the Hulk or Thanos only hit with around 100-300 tons.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Wouldnt matter because apparently we dont power scale from one character to another as it all fictional and made up and the writers are too idiotic to put any thought at all into power scales
I did not ignore anything. I addressed your post with 4points. You basically ignored some of my points. I explained why there is no contradiction.
You know that pressure = force /area right?
The pressure at the tip may be 2900 tons per square but the bullet is deforming, increasing the area and decreasing the velocity of the bullet.
The pressure decreases by thousands of tons per square in just after an inch of travel. For a 3in plate, I'm surprised that it even penetrated.
The pressure goes from 2900 to 50 in less than 2 inches of travel. There should be no blowing through anything.
Once the tip deforms to the diameter of the bullet (20mm) the pressure is BELOW 50. You are thinking that the bullets stays at 2900 the whole way and thus is suppose to blow right through the plate. Wrong!
The initial pressure just proves that there would be some penetration, even if it is just a little bit. It doesn't prove complete penetration (which needs calculus to prove)
Please try to understand me. Most of our discussion is just a misunderstanding. I promise you that it is. I'm not arguing that Jessica Jones IS BULLETPROOF. She's not. That's common sense. I was just giving a counterexample for the logic you and others are using.
You guys are saying that Thor is aircraft bullet proof, indirectly, through his other feats, yet writer's intentions clearly shows that he isn't supposed to be.
I can apply that logic for Jessica Jones. She has feats that scientifically proves that she is low level bulletproof, but writer's intentions are that she isn't. And lastly, why does the logic of a character being bulletproof indirectly because of their other feats only apply to the MCU? That's a universal logic as stated. That means I can use counterexamples from other universes (because the logic used was a universal one, and not a one pertaining to a particular universe).
Do you now understand?
There is no such thing as a great outward force of a star. Forces push or pull. Thor was barely pushed if any.
It was figurative language.
It is faulty to assume that a character's words, in the literal sense, are the writer's intentions when a such thing as figurative language Exists (which creates the possibility) AND there is evidence supporting he used figurative language. The evidence is
the literal sense of the character's words makes little to no sense and that it goes against what we actually see (flames, burning, little to no push or pull, etc) .
The point of the video I posted was merely to show that as metal compresses, it can resist more forces and pressure. It was silly of me to bring up. It's not a strong argument anyway so forget about it.
Basically all the calculations I done was unnecessary as we have evidence that Thor isn't aircraft bullet proof and it is faulty to use other feats as an indirect way of showing that he should be bulletproof (because of the JJ example).
Thank you so much for the link and the videos. I really appreciate it. Was looking for things like this. I love that type of stuff.
Through other DURABILITY Feats. And through POWER SCALING. And from standing in the LINE OF FIRE with nothing happening.
You do not get to dictate writers intentions. The writers intention was clear when Thor was not shot down by the QuinJet, and when Thor is as durable as Hulk.
A great strength feat then resisting getting pushed by the full force of a Star
No its faulty for you to assume writers intentions are whatever you desire them to be.
Thors numerous durability feats, PLUS power scaling off Hulk PLUS standing in the line of fire with nothing happening PLUS reliable character dialogue ALL make writers intentions clear and present plentiful evidence that no Human guns can harm Thor.
Your desires and butthurt do not qualify as evidence.
I like how H1 continues to lie about the writers intention.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Power scaling does not prove Thor is resistant to aircraft bullets. Characters do not share highest feats. I can take Superman's highest feat and then show a character going to toe to toe doesn't mean that character gets Superman's highest durability feat.
I didn't see Thor get struck with a bullet. It looks like all misses to me.
It's faulty for you to assume Etri was literal.
This implies there is no such thing as figurative language and that everything that comes out of all characters' mouths is to be taken literally.
It makes way more sense to be figurative language than literal.
Literal doesn't even make any sense. What does being pushed by the full force of a star actually means? Why would a star push someone with great force? Stars don't do that. How can they? With what mechanism?
We don't see Thor getting pushed greatly when he goes limp.
We see a bunch of heat and flames. We know stars are hot, we know heat is required to melt metal in a forge. We know the forge harnesses the stars heat.
You are the one making the writer's intentions out of what you desire.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
If Doomsday proves more durable than Superman in H2H against each other, then of course we assume Doomsday can take anything Superman can. Unless PROVEN Otherwise.
Point about Thor being in the Quin Jets line of fire is it just adds to all the Massive load of other evidence that Thor is completely bullet proof. And with a scene like that youd have to have some damn compelling evidence to suggest Thor isnt bullet proof which you clearly do not.
Also notice how he didnt attempt to move out of the way this time now that he is more aware of Earths defences?
So yeah, you need to stop with your butthurt.
Eitri is a reliable source. You are clearly just butthurt.
Also tell me would the heat of that star melted aircraft fire?
Thor's durability did seem to take an epic jump. I mean Hulk has made him bleed with punches.
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__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Its not Sharing Feats as if they both did the same thing, but Power Scaling still exists on a like for like basis. Pile that up with everything else and its a no brainier.
Its yet more evidence against your retarded stance. Deal with it.
Where is it even hinted he was being figurative? Again you are ignoring writers intention due to your own butt hurt.
The retard is claiming that is sharing feat high we are not allowed.
Anyway stop the trolling and answer these questions straight:
1) Would the heat of a Star melt away aircraft bullets?
2) Are Hulks punches weaker than aircraft bullets?
3) Is Hulk more durable than Thor?
4) Is Iron Man more durable than Thor?
Last edited by Darth Thor on Sep 12th, 2018 at 06:44 PM
1. Yes
2. In force no. In piercing pressuring yes.
3. Yes, easily (except for heat and lightning)
4. Maybe. Thor is stronger and has Mjolnir (way more power striking). If IM was as strong as Thor and had Mjolnir for boosted striking then I believe IM would damage Thor just as much as he got damaged from Thor.
But know that aircraft bullets put holes through IM.
You are arguing in circles. It's writers intentions to be literal because it is. There is sufficient evidence pointing that it is not literal. It borders absurdity if we try to assume literal.
Trust me I believe Thor is bulletproof, just not aircraft bulletproof.
Sif wasn’t hit by a bullet, she had to block them.
Loki face was scared by a bullet. He healed instantly (maybe it was the staff?)
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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