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I considered that all actually. smile


Yet somehow chose to ignore it in your analysis? Else why would you specifically claim that manhandling Hulk was out of Thor's capability when he clearly did so at the end of their Ragnarok match.


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Sorry, but who cares that a lightning punch can knock Hulk back while leaving him relatively uninjured?

**** knocking Hulk off his feet. Thanos knocked Hulk out. Something Thor has never managed to do. Thor was sending Hulk further back than Thanos did wielding the big hammer in Ragnarok too, but I hope you're not going to suggest that he was hitting harder than Thanos, when Hulk was then able to palm one of those blows?

Could he have won with his lightning powers? I think he probably would have won sure. He's always been more skilled and quicker than Hulk, and now that he has the power to actually do some lasting damage to Hulk bare-handed he should be able to win.

Could he have easily dominated Hulk after being cheapshotted like Thanos was? There is no reason to think that.


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Yet somehow chose to ignore it in your analysis? Else why would you specifically leave them out and conclude that this is a mismatch?


Because I don't see a ton of relevance to it. Yes, Thor's super-amped punch knocked Hulk back. But the rest of his lightning punches (from later in the film) never show near the same intensity.

And while Thor was tortured and was undeniably not operating at his full power, a surprise attack from him still didn't even phase Thanos. Thor's attacks are going to have to be many times stronger to hurt a Thanos who is prepared and ready for him.

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Sorry, but who cares that a lightning punch can knock Hulk back while leaving him relatively uninjured?

**** knocking Hulk off his feet. Thanos knocked Hulk out. Something Thor has never managed to do. Thor was sending Hulk further back than Thanos did wielding the big hammer in Ragnarok too, but I hope you're not going to suggest that he was hitting harder than Thanos, when Hulk was then able to palm one of those blows?

Could he have won with his lightning powers? I think he probably would have won sure. He's always been more skilled and quicker than Hulk, and now that he has the power to actually do some lasting damage to Hulk bare-handed he should be able to win.

Could he have easily dominated Hulk after being cheapshotted like Thanos was? There is no reason to think that.


Relatively uninjured? Hulk was very groggy after only 1 hit. Do you understand how punches work? Hulk wasn't injured either after only 1 hit from Thanos. Thanos took 11 hits and a bodyslam to take out Hulk. There's no way Hulk would have survived 11 charged hits from Thor either. Probably wouldn't survive half that since 2 already convinced Grandmaster to interfere.


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Because I don't see a ton of relevance to it. Yes, Thor's super-amped punch knocked Hulk back. But the rest of his lightning punches (from later in the film) never show near the same intensity.

And while Thor was tortured and was undeniably not operating at his full power, a surprise attack from him still didn't even phase Thanos. Thor's attacks are going to have to be many times stronger to hurt a Thanos who is prepared and ready for him.


What rest of his lightning punches? He used 2 amped punches on the Hulk and they had the same intensity. His lightning attacks at the end of the movie were one-shotting and even disintegrating his enemies. It's weird that you think an attack that clearly hurt Hulk has no relevance to this fight yet seem to think Thanos' attacks that hurt Hulk are relevant. Bit of a double standard there eh?


As for your other point... have you ever been in a fight before? If you don't have enough energy to stand up properly, then you definitely don't have enough energy to put power behind a blow. Watch any MMA or boxing match. Once a person gases out, their hits become extremely negligible... and that's them just being tired but still able to keep standing. Someone so beaten up that they can't stand is never going to be able to put force behind a blow.


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Relatively uninjured? Hulk was very groggy after only 1 hit. Do you understand how punches work?


Do you? Hulk took a direct shot he didn't expect to his unguarded chin. Do you think Thor will be getting that many favorable punches to the chin?

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Hulk wasn't injured either after only 1 hit from Thanos.


He was grasping his throat and squealing like a girl from a single neck chop my man.

Thanos by comparison wasn't injured by several punches and rams from Hulk after being cheapshot.

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Thanos took 11 hits and a bodyslam to take out Hulk.


Hulk was out before the bodyslam. Watch the fight.

For that matter, watch the Ragnarok fight. Thor had already beat on Hulk before hitting him with an unexpected lightning punch to the chin.

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There's no way Hulk would have survived 11 charged hits from Thor either. Probably wouldn't survive half that since 2 already convinced Grandmaster to interfere.


There's no evidence of this my friend.

You're going by what you think Thor would have taken Hulk down in, but frankly Hulk looked better after that lightning punch than he did from getting hit through the wall by that big hammer in the same fight, and Hulk proceeded to continue the fight and ultimately would have won had Thor not awakened his powers.

Hulk's durability, endurance, and healing factor make him hard to put down. Thanos put him down in like twenty seconds.

So let us reiterate:

On one hand you have a guy who physically tanked an extended series of cheapshots from Hulk and then dominated him with his bare hands, knocking him out in about twenty seconds.

On the other hand you have a guy whose sole showing against Hulk is, get this, knocking him off his feet with a cheapshot of his own after already fighting him for several minutes and making him shake his head as he got up. A guy who has, per Thor's own words, already fought Thanos and lost.


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What rest of his lightning punches? He used 2 amped punches on the Hulk and they had the same intensity.
When was the second punch?


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What rest of his lightning punches? He used 2 amped punches on the Hulk and they had the same intensity. His lightning attacks at the end of the movie were one-shotting and even disintegrating his enemies. It's weird that you think an attack that clearly hurt Hulk has no relevance to this fight yet seem to think Thanos' attacks that hurt Hulk are relevant. Bit of a double standard there eh?


Funny. But you completely missed the point.

In his fight with Hulk, he seems to be "charging up" before those two attacks. Hell, we literally hear this when he is on his back. In comparison, at the end of the film, when fighting the goons and Hela his attacks don't seem to have near the same intensity from his punches (no massive explosions etc...). Certainly, his supercharged punches would hurt Thanos. But I don't see any reason why he would be able to unleash a flurry of them.

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As for your other point... have you ever been in a fight before? If you don't have enough energy to stand up properly, then you definitely don't have enough energy to put power behind a blow. Watch any MMA or boxing match. Once a person gases out, their hits become extremely negligible... and that's them just being tired but still able to keep standing. Someone so beaten up that they can't stand is never going to be able to put force behind a blow.


And Thor was able to stand. If you wanna prove he was operating at like half power or whatever, feel free.

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**** knocking Hulk off his feet. Thanos knocked Hulk out. Something Thor has never managed to do.



Because the Grandmaster intervened... Thats clear to everyone but you, Quanchi and Josh.

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Because the Grandmaster intervened... Thats clear to everyone but you, Quanchi and Josh.


In the very same post dude...

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Could he have won with his lightning powers? I think he probably would have won sure. He's always been more skilled and quicker than Hulk, and now that he has the power to actually do some lasting damage to Hulk bare-handed he should be able to win.

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But "he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle" does.



The context of that quote makes it pretty clear hes talking about H2H fighting.


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Anyway, re-watching the Thanos/Hulk, after Thanos stomps Hulk; Thor attacks Thanos by hitting him with a beam from behind. It doesn't even phase Thanos and Thanos then dismisses Thor with a simple kick. This is a mismatch.



Why even bring this up when you know hed just been tortured, and when nobody is claiming Thor could take Thanos in a punch up anyway?

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In the very same post dude...



Its not the first time he said that. So Im calling him out.

And even his whole: Could probably eventually take him... is also underselling it.

Fact is the ONLY time we have seen Thor unleash his full power on Hulk, Hulk struggles to stay awake with every single hit.

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This kid is mad that I'm not sucking his fictional boyfriend's cock as much as he'd like lmao.

I was supporting Mjolnir Thor vs. Hulk way before you crawled out of SWVF and started posting on this board regularly.

Fact of the matter is that, as Ragnarok showed, Thor probably can't beat Hulk bare-handed. Could he have done so with Mjolnir? Yes, I think so. Could he have done so after awakening his powers in Ragnarok? Probably yeah.

If you have a problem with how I voice my conclusions you can suck on a bag of baby dicks my man.

"Fact is the ONLY time we have seen Thor unleash his full power on Hulk, Hulk struggles to stay awake with every single hit."

What are you basing this on btw?


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Well that's pretty cut and dried.

Thanos wins.

No clue how this stretched on for nearly 40 pages...

Because people are stubborn and, for some reason, do not accept these very clear statements.

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They're all a bunch of homos who can't read.


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Funny. But you completely missed the point.

In his fight with Hulk, he seems to be "charging up" before those two attacks. Hell, we literally hear this when he is on his back. In comparison, at the end of the film, when fighting the goons and Hela his attacks don't seem to have near the same intensity from his punches (no massive explosions etc...). Certainly, his supercharged punches would hurt Thanos. But I don't see any reason why he would be able to unleash a flurry of them.



And Thor was able to stand. If you wanna prove he was operating at like half power or whatever, feel free.


Thor never "charged up". The first time he punched Hulk it was him finally unleashing his power. He didn't need to charge up in his second punch.

As for the final fight, like I said his hits were disintegrating undead Asgardians and flinging them meters away. Why would you want to use a roundhouse kick on an opponent whom you could knock out with a jab?




And yes, Thor finally was able to stand... which probably took all of his effort. I don't think you're understanding the point here. He couldn't even stand in the beginning, how much force do you think he would have been able to put behind a blow?


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Do you? Hulk took a direct shot he didn't expect to his unguarded chin. Do you think Thor will be getting that many favorable punches to the chin?



He was grasping his throat and squealing like a girl from a single neck chop my man.

Thanos by comparison wasn't injured by several punches and rams from Hulk after being cheapshot.



Hulk was out before the bodyslam. Watch the fight.

For that matter, watch the Ragnarok fight. Thor had already beat on Hulk before hitting him with an unexpected lightning punch to the chin.



There's no evidence of this my friend.

You're going by what you think Thor would have taken Hulk down in, but frankly Hulk looked better after that lightning punch than he did from getting hit through the wall by that big hammer in the same fight, and Hulk proceeded to continue the fight and ultimately would have won had Thor not awakened his powers.

Hulk's durability, endurance, and healing factor make him hard to put down. Thanos put him down in like twenty seconds.

So let us reiterate:

On one hand you have a guy who physically tanked an extended series of cheapshots from Hulk and then dominated him with his bare hands, knocking him out in about twenty seconds.

On the other hand you have a guy whose sole showing against Hulk is, get this, knocking him off his feet with a cheapshot of his own after already fighting him for several minutes and making him shake his head as he got up. A guy who has, per Thor's own words, already fought Thanos and lost.


Yeah, Hulk got punched in the chin... by a guy who was flat on his back punching up. Do you have any idea how hard it is to put power behind a punch like that? And yet it threw Hulk up a few meters and landed him on his back.

The 2nd time Thor punched him with a charged punch, Hulk was fully prepared for it and it still knocked him flat on his ass.

And it's weird how you think gagging after a throat hit proves that a hit hurt Hulk yet you think Hulk shaking his head to clear away cobwebs after getting punched doesn't constitute him getting hurt?


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Because people are stubborn and, for some reason, do not accept these very clear statements.


Have you ever considered reading the rules of this forum?


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Yeah, Hulk got punched in the chin... by a guy who was flat on his back punching up. Do you have any idea how hard it is to put power behind a punch like that? And yet it threw Hulk up a few meters and landed him on his back.

The 2nd time Thor punched him with a charged punch, Hulk was fully prepared for it and it still knocked him flat on his ass.


You know, you honestly shouldn't have even mentioned the second punch, because the youtube video I used to refresh my memory of the fight edited it out and made it look like the first punch was the one which made Hulk a little groggy.

Going back to rewatch the scene on my Netflix account and I now see the punch from his back did pretty much no damage at all. Only the second punch had any real effect on Hulk.

So a leaping haymaker from Thor makes Hulk a little groggy. A quick standing chop from Thanos has Hulk gasping for breath and clutching his neck. Thanos proceeded to quickly knock Hulk out with more quick standing jabs and straights, capped off by a knee to the face.

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And it's weird how you think gagging after a throat hit proves that a hit hurt Hulk yet you think Hulk shaking his head to clear away cobwebs after getting punched doesn't constitute him getting hurt?


Relatively uninjured doofus, as in still coherent and able to fight.

The level of pain, in that it stopped him momentarily and caused him audible pain is similar. Only Thanos did it with a single casual attack, instead of a leaping haymaker.


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Because the Grandmaster intervened... Thats clear to everyone but you, Quanchi and Josh.
He fought him twice you mongoloid. No one would agree with you. Film makers flat out state no contest. Film shows it, Thor confirms without the axe no contest. You are delusional af.


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