The fact that Aaron thinks that's what Mjolnir's role should be is phucking infuriating. Like, if he was in front of me, I would kick him in the dick until my foot broke.
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Besieged by countless foes, his eyes they are aglow, longing for the fight. He stands upon a mound, doesn't aim the throw, just lets the hammer fly!
Current hammers still operate the way Thor commands them mentally, though.
Thor still controls its flight speed [accelerate, decelerate, or stand still in the air] just by holding the hammer. There's blatant examples of this. First one that comes to mind, in Avengers #10 (iirc) when he moves that large building carefully in the air, obviously, he didn't fly by catapulting himself.
You can still see Thor mentally control them to release lightning while not holding them [against Juggernaut].
You can see the hammer spinning [i.e. gaining momentum] with Thor just holding them by the handle, repeatedly.
Loki commanded the hammer, from a standing position, back to Thor, without having to throw it, in issue #4 ( or #3? Thor was in Hel)
Thor can still easily call them back to him.
etc. etc.
I don't have the scans, since I'm not at home, but the hammer being Thor's "Iron Man suit" is very obvious.
I don't get what the big deal is? It's obviously not Thor's arm's strength, but that's semantics, since the hammer itself still has prison-planet moving momentum, so the end result would still be the same, even if Thor mentally controls it.
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Screwbeard? He'll if I know how he "sends" the hammers. U really think he can easily will hammers to tow planets? I mean...
Thor can shatter multiple celestial bodies as a side effect of his attacks.
All of a sudden these infinitely weaker hammers have the ability to tow planets all by command? And now they're "commanded" to tow planets by a guy who gets a hard on for throwing hammers. The king of hammer throwing ffs... A guy who literally stated he has dreams of throwing hammers.
Well Wutever. Believe what u wanna believe. I just think that it ain't that complicated to see what happened in the scene.
They're not infinitely weaker....these latest ones are specifically forged by Odin.
I'm saying that the comic shows him 'sending' the hammer, attached to the planet, away.
How he does it, I don't know.
He could have thrown it. He could also have commanded it. We have seen that there is precedence for then being 'sent', like Tony when he summons his armours. There's an argument to be made that Loki sent the hammer, which Thor sensed was coming and hence, held his arm out.
I mean, we even have Loki attaching the chain first, THEN telling it to fly, and then it flies. Unless you're now saying Loki somehow knew the exact moment Thor would summon the hammer?
But to sit back and declare 'He 100% threw it for sure' based on....iffy art (there's DEFINITELY panels missing, the hammer isn't even attached to anything) and 'he likes to throw hammers' is..... incorrect.
He already has a multitude of hammers. The scene with Odin just shows they made more. Each hammer made whether it be by Screwbeard or Odin, are powered by Odin. We don't know which hammers he used in #8. In reality it doesn't matter because they are all made with very little uru and are powered by Odin's enchantments.
And u already know what I thought of the Loki scene. I know you're gonna argue sequence. Sometimes the sequence in stories is such that a part of the story is revealed only in a following scene. The hammer was called back by Thor.
And yet u are declaring that he told the hammer to fly off. Told by a guy who throws hammers 99.9999% of the time away... Other than throwing, when do u ever see Thor commanding hammers to fly away from him? What ure describing is not even normal to the character. In fact it would be abnormal.
'Mjolnir.....never flew for me as it does for you'
That's what Thor said to Jane. IOW, Mjolnir flies as he commands; unless you're now arguing it changing direction etc is all due to the kinetic energy he gives it with the throw? That's been retconned.
So 99.999999% of the time just fell a hell of a lot, lol.
Odin was showing Screwbeard how it was done. Wait till Thor sees the arsenal he was going to make him. The hammers were different to the usual ones Screwbeard had made.
As for the Loki sequence....well, I have the order in which the pages and panels were presented.
What do you have?
You're the one adding more things and making it more than what was presented, with these theories and hypotheses.
True @ Stilt. There was a scan where Odin had to tell thor that Mjolnir could swing around at lightspeed.
If Thor's arm could that by itself he wouldn't have needed Odin to tell him that Mjolnir has that ability.
As they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
The claim that Thor physcially swung the prison sized planet off panel is a much taller claim than saying it was simply commanded to fly, especially when there is precedent for it. So it requires far more evidence to prove he physically threw it than to assume it was just commanded to fly.
Until that happens, the more conservative claim takes precedence.
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