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Galan007
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Palpatine was indeed a beast, but that was more just gratuitous fun for me.

I still hated TLJ a lot more than this.

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Dec 24th, 2019 04:27 PM

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I certainly hated TLJ more as well. But at least that movie had something to say and the characters has some depth to them. ROS was just another regurgitation of everything that came before with paper thin characterization. It was utterly mindless with more plot holes than plot.

Dec 24th, 2019 04:46 PM

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Galan007
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Funny thing is that I don't necessarily disagree. RoS had loads of issues for sure.

I just went in fully expecting to hate this just as much(if not more) than TLJ, and as a happy coincidence... I didn't.

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Dec 24th, 2019 04:54 PM

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^ Probably the rest of us put your expectations super low going in.

Dec 24th, 2019 04:59 PM

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Sith Master X
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Saw RoS again last night.

Liked it much better on my 2nd viewing, which was the exact opposite effect I had with TLJ.

I still think the first half isn't great and is very rushed, but the 2nd half is at least entertaining. Seeing it again helped me pick up on things I missed the first time as well.

Personally, from the first force fight on Kajimi onward, the movie is good. Before that, it's a bit choppy.

This was Ian's best performance as Palpatine by a long shot.

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Ian�s performance in RotS puts this to shame. The opera scene alone is significantly better than everything he does in this film combined.

Dec 24th, 2019 05:06 PM

Galan007
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^ Probably the rest of us put your expectations super low going in.

My low expectations started way back when the leaks first began surfacing, lol.

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Dec 24th, 2019 05:08 PM

Sith Master X
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The opera scene was awesome, but he was a little too hammy in some areas of the film.

I thought he was decently scary in this one.

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Dec 24th, 2019 05:11 PM

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Sidious is almost always hammy. It�s part of the character�s charm. He was just as hammy here as he was in RotS or RotJ.

Dec 24th, 2019 05:13 PM

Galan007
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One thing I found myself wondering is:

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Given that Rey and Kylo are obviously capable of using the force to levitate, what's stopping them from fully flying? Don't get me wrong, I would NEVER want to see a general force-user flying around like Superman, but given everything else on display in this film, I am genuinely surprised they didn't... Especially Rey.

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Dec 24th, 2019 05:14 PM

Sith Master X
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Well we'll have to agree to disagree on it.

As a whole I like ROTS better than RoS, but I just found that I enjoyed the atmosphere of Ian's scenes better here.

There were no goofy faces, silly lines deliveries, or hammy cackles like the one he breaks as he's walking toward Yoda after zapping him. Don't get wrong, Ian was a blast to watch in ROTS and probably the best part of the film in general, I just never felt he was overly scary in it.

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Dec 24th, 2019 05:27 PM

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Ian is better in ROTS and ROTJ imo. He didnt really feel quite like the Emperor I know in this movie to me. I have to watch it again.

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Well we'll have to agree to disagree on it.

As a whole I like ROTS better than RoS, but I just found that I enjoyed the atmosphere of Ian's scenes better here.

There were no goofy faces, silly lines deliveries, or hammy cackles like the one he breaks as he's walking toward Yoda after zapping him. Don't get wrong, Ian was a blast to watch in ROTS and probably the best part of the film in general, I just never felt he was overly scary in it.

No goofy faces or silly line deliveries?

Dec 24th, 2019 05:31 PM

Sith Master X
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https://imgur.com/gallery/QEd0ifN/comment/27490263

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https://imgur.com/gallery/QEd0ifN/comment/27490263

Probably the main reason why Revenge of the Sith is so enjoyable... even if we don't want to admit it...

McDiarmid is without equal.

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Sith Master X
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I love ROTS. My all time fav when it comes to SW.

I just didn't find the Emperor frightening. Maybe he wasn't supposed to be, but for a movie that was supposed to be the darkest (and parts of it were) there were moments where Palpatine was too hammy. That's not to say he was bad....because he was a blast to watch.

Look at the photo below....I know which one I find creepy, and which one I think looks like a guy posing for his 50 year school of evil emperor's reunion photo. Again, not a bad performance, just not as frightening. But that's my opinion.

https://imgur.com/a/mPzB4Fz

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Dec 24th, 2019 09:55 PM

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Neither of them are frightening. But one is significantly more entertaining than the other.

Dec 24th, 2019 09:59 PM

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Palpatine in TROS is far creepier than in the previous films.

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I didnt find him frightening at all.

And yeah, he was a bland generic villain in this and not in the least bit entertaining like we have come to expect from him.

Dec 24th, 2019 11:42 PM