Trump's been defending Putin(eg Helsinki 2018) and distracting away from Russia's antics since he took office(actually before); he's not going change so that's the deflection away from Trump they have to do.
What this part of your post fails to capture is how close the "being off" was in each of those states in 2016. Sure, the polls were off between less than 1% to as much as 7% but most were off between the 2%-5% range.
That's not the environment we are seeing, now. The differences are huge at the voter turnout. Trump's base is literally rallying in record numbers, by far. Shattering previous records.
In the most literal way possible, a sitting president has never seen this much support before as both a ratio of the population and in raw numbers.
At this point, based on Dem voter turnout and how much of Trump's base is turning out to vote in record numbers, there's no hope for a Dem victory besides what I said a few weeks back: Trump just fails in such an absurdly massive way about something (like violating someone on camera in front of millions during the general election debates). It's really not possible for Trump to lose at this point.
The Dems must realize this. It's odd that they would be trying to work against Sanders if Sanders is consistently being shown to be the best against Trump.
Just think about this for a second: you guys are dumb enough to keep defending this shit show. Hilarious. Keep it up
Imagine just being unable to say "I want Bernie to win, but he needs to cut this shit out it's not going to contribute to that". Nah, you can't do that, you gotta come in with "Hitler probably did some good things". Then you gotta come in and try to act like it's only republicans calling him out.
So sorry this happened to you.
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I'd sit this one out kiddo, your hypocrisy need not become the subject of this thread
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Sit this one out, you and a convo about self awareness don't mix.
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Yeah a moral man who says women fantasize about being gang raped.
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You missed his point. He's talking about votes for Bernie. Bernie has hit a ceiling or is performing worse than in 2016.
The proper counter argument against Adam_Poe's point is that there are more candidates this time around so the votes are not split 2 ways but 5-8 ways. Which means Bernie has far more support in 2020 than in 2016 since his numbers remained consistent despite voter split. When those other candidates drop out as the primary/caucuses continue, those votes were funnel into the top 2 candidates and Bernie will vastly eclipse his prior figures.
Right? 171K voters turned out in 2016. Bernie earned 49.6% of those votes.
Hey then Trump's "they let you do it" seems more valid now. So no problems
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Maybe but gang rape is way worse than letting a rich guy grope you so I'm cool with it.
And just for fun if Trump began dropping these rape fantasy stats how would Dems react?
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Anyways, this is sorta like their "Well Hitler probably did some good things" defense.
Do you believe for a single second if Trump or any Republican began talking like that...these people would be all "well the nuance" ?
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Problem is according to Trump, those gropes were consensual.
One can call him a liar, but the same applies to women that wanted to play our rape fantasy.
That's why the ultra kinky shit with contracts and what not is so controversial, it's too easy to disguise abuse as consent.
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