*Albert will be repping Daredevil and Nightshade.
*Supermutant will be repping Gorgon and Psylocke.
-Normal (unamped) version of characters.
-Nightshade is composite (Pre 52 and Rebirth.)
-Gorgon has the Godkiller sword.
-No BFR.
-Victory by KO or death.
-Battlefield is the football field of Gotham Stadium, and opponents start at each others 40 yard line.
*3 post limit. No posts will be accepted after 5/10/2019.
*Judges TBD.
...And yes, Albert is aware of the consequences should he not complete this BZ.
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
Last edited by Galan007 on May 2nd, 2019 at 02:06 PM
At the beginning of the match , Nightshade will use her Magical Darkness. It's an ability which lets Nightshade to make her opponents completely blind by taking away the light. By doing this, Gorgon and Psylocke will be completely defenseless since they won't be able to see their opponents while Nightshade and WW will have no problem. Since there won't be any light so all of
After she takes away all light from her opponents, she will unleash her shadow giants. (note: this isn't an outside help, Nightshade can make these giants by using her shadow powers) Notice the size of just a giant. https://imgur.com/a/7XBV6BE
Here further explanation of Nightshade's magical darkness is given as she can let anyone see through her magic while rest are blind. Well, the main objective of this scan was to show how strong these giants really are as one of them stomped Jack of fire . Notice that he broke the ground in the process .
Proof that she cam make and control multiple shadow giants at once. Notice that here in this scan those Giants were wrecking hell demons without much trouble so these giant will definitely cause much trouble to my opponents specially when they can't even see them coming because of blindness https://imgur.com/a/UF1qnvT
Nightshade can also turn intangible so all of their opponents attacks will be useless https://imgur.com/a/S4B83OQ
BTW she can redirect any attacks which is projected towards her via shadow portals .So good luck with projectiles or kicks and punches because she'll send them right back at you https://imgur.com/a/4w9Vn1C
Psylocke has nothing which can put down Nightshade, her mind is a trap for telepaths. If Psylocke tries to enter her mind then he'll be trapped there for eternity unless Nightshade want to release her, So, basically if Psylocke tries to use his tp on Nightshade then this fight will be over for him. https://imgur.com/a/d5VRAJ8
She can also coat her opponents in shadows where they'll be helpless
This battle will be pretty straightforward. When the match starts Nightshade will immediately attack Daredevil. Then Gorgon will decapitate Daredevil first with the godkiller sword. Next Gorgon will decapitate Nightshade as well. Or while Nightshade is fighting Daredevil, Psylocke will ko Daredevil first with her psychic knife, and then do the same to Nightshade.
But why will Alberto’s team be fighting each other, you asked? It is because Nightshade will be completely under the mental control of the omega level psychic Psylocke. Just like below when she was under the mental control of Gorilla Grodd, while fighting Superman and Batman.
Nightshade has no defense to Psylocke’s omega level telepathy. Psylocke has beaten the Shadow King in the astral plane and defeated Cassandra Nova in a psychic duel. Nightshade definitely is not resisting her at all and will become her puppet just like she was Gorilla Grodd’s puppet as previously shown. Plus Psylocke will be able to mentally control Nightshade while being protected by a tk shield. She has been able to block against Magneto and the Shadow King, Nightshade isn’t coming close to getting through it.
And Gorgon simply outclasses Daredevil. Gorgon has own both Elektra and Wolverine simultaneously after getting stabbed by them both. Wolverine need to trick Gorgon into using his own power against himself to win. That certainly will not be happening here no PIS, no reflective surface for my opponents to use anyways.
Daredevil is on the same level as Elektra and Shang and below Wolverine. He will not fare any better than they did in a one on one encounter, much less a three on one fight. Where he has to fight his partner Nightshade plus Gorgon and Psylocke.
Now I’m sure Alberto will try to use the low showing and cheap shot from DD, but Gorgon was busy fighting Iron Fist as you can clearly see below. Plus Gorgon has tanked far greater than a DD kick.
And even if DD can defend against Psylocke’s tp, he doesn’t have a defense against her tk something that she didn’t use at all in their previous AvX fight. https://imgur.com/675HLxB
Finally my team has great communication as they both are telepaths. So every attack will be expertly coordinated. And the godkiller sword is magical in nature, so Nightshade will be greatly harmed by it. It has “made that god bleed.”
So in summary match starts:
Psylocke immediately use tp to control Nightshade, while also maintaining a tk shield around herself.
While Nightshade is fighting Daredevil, Gorgon takes advantage and kills them both with the godkiller sword starting first with Daredevil. Gorgon was fast enough to cut off both arms from a blitzing Yo-Yo. Decapitating the much slower Daredevil and Nightshade will not be a problem. https://imgur.com/a/jV0QeAb
Or Psylocke can blast DD with tk or use her psychic knife to ko him. And then do the same to Nightshade who will still be under her mind control. Plus there are only combinations of Gorgon and Psylocke working together to defeat their opponents.
But this should suffice for an OP and given the stips like no bfr and my plan, Alberto team is really just in a mismatch.
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
oK 1. How would Pyslocke be able to do anything while Nightshade is undetected?
I want to show that I will be unable to be detected. In this amazing scene here we see NS using her stealth and shadow mode to travel undetected . No one was able to see her and they were all together and people like Supes and Bats were there.
I want to prove that these constructs act independently from Nightshade. Please note that NIghtshade can communicate with her constructs. They give her info and attack on their own and she can proceed to attack. Note here how the shadow birds collect info on their own.
Again they act alone and are powerful. They strike the ground and shockwaves blow monsters away. https://imgur.com/a/U4uEEE1
Here as we can all see she is running away and the constructs are still going at it. Now I ask the judges how will my opponent know where to attack my team? I have shown they can move on their own and independently.
I will add that my aoes are actually city block size aoes. I can easily summon one of these to absorb all your attacks and direct them right back at you. Again, ONLY IF I DECIDE to reveal myself. https://imgur.com/a/vZDDhSQ
Again, several blocks at a time. Note that is caused her strain and she still does it. I don't need anything nearly this wide and long. I can use a smaller version and use it as a massive shield. Like a shadow wall that will absorb all attacks. I can direct it at you if I would like. Please show us how fast you will move? I want to see how any of your attacks pass through this attacks if I decided to use this attack as a sort of ceiling. I can keep this over our heads horizontal and how does anything from above get through? No attacks that you have shown can conquer this attack. Note that she made it and still ran with the team and made a smaller portal and everything else she did. She can execute and attack and keep it moving:
please note this scene here. Note how she had hidden the sky from Cap Atom. NOte how he only notices because he can't see the sky and yet she can't be seen. How are you detecting her?
I also want to state that Nighshades power stem from the nightshade dimension. THis is energy from another dimension and not just regular shadows. Its a power royalty weld on her world. I would like to see either of your opponents phasing out of a shadow energy?
This is not just matter, this is exotic energies and I can encase you in it. I can encase both of you in dark shadow energy shield. Unless you can show a scan of your character phasing out of this type of energy shield? I can use this on both. How will you brethe? I can remain hidden as I’ve been and attack by surprise and take thEm out with anyone on my team.
my opponent thinks that attacking Nightshade while in her shadow form is a good idea, but it is a horrible one. She can induce her nightmares on both opponents. also shows that her nightmares are far worse than any memory or reality.... As she is showing a soldier whom has participated in many global genocides things even he fears) https://imgur.com/a/kFmEjM9
before you try to argue speed or reactions. Darkness is always going to match your speed cause you will always cast a shadow lol https://imgur.com/a/p6fCn1d
I mean how exactly do you plan on locating my team while shrouded in darkness? Here we see Nightshade explain to Shazam what the Darkness from the shadowlands is. You have zero means https://imgur.com/a/usplbZ1
Alberto is a funny guy, he thinks darkness is his ally. The problem for him and one of reasons why he loses is because no one on my team have to see with their eyes to fight.lol Let’s look at his wasted first move again. Which is a key part of his overall strategy.
Gorgon doesn’t even remove his blindfold or shades unless he wishes to turn someone to stone. So he almost always fight in the dark i.e. without the need of eyesight lol. Also Gorgon and Psylocke are psychics i.e. they don’t rely on eyesight when using tp.
The Shadow King already tried Alberto’s plan against Psylocke and failed. Plus he had the advantage of an ambush that not only took out Xavier in a younger body, but the rest of that X-Men group except Psylocke. As seen belong the Shadow King used darkness plus nightmares to create despair, doubt, regret, and fear. To the point that even Old Man Logan stabbed himself with his own claws trying to kill himself, being unable to fight against the Shadow King’s influence. But Psylocke was unaffected because of her mental powers. So even if Nightshade was able to perform her darkness/nightmare attacks, Psylocke would resist it with greater ease than she did with the Shadow King. Because his power and abilities are far superior to Nightshade’s.
All Alberto opening move does is give my team specifically Psylocke even more time to attack Nightshade mentally. And makes it easier for Nightshade to get turned to stone by Gorgon, since she sees through her own magical darkness as Alberto has shown. Plus of course in this battle Nightshade will not even be able to perform any opening moves, before Psylocke takes mental control of her from the outset.
Furthermore, Gorgon killed the god of fears in Phobos and was completely unaffected by his fear stare. Gorgon fears nothing having already died, and been brought back. He would literally laugh at her if Nightshade caused him to see his worst nightmare. Its very funny to think that darkness and nightmares will stop someone who almost always fight with his eyes closed, and who has literally killed the god of all fears. lol
Here the godkiller sword is magical, being that it was commissioned and used by Zeus. And Gorgon has already used it to kill a god, Nightshade will fare no better than Phobos did. Plus Gorgon has a significantly more powerful sword than Slade has, which made Nightshade helpless against him.
So basically this entire match comes down to the fact that both my two psychics can read Nightshade mind, and Psylocke’s tp is far greater than any mental resistance that Nightshade has. Not only has Gorilla Grodd controlled her mind, but also Eclipso.
Nightshade even struggles while using her powers to maintain her own sanity. She can barely keep the soundness of her own mind, but Alberto would have you to believe that she can defend against the mental attacks of a high end psychic like Psylocke.
However that psychic name is Pravda, and she is nothing more than a low level, weak willed, inexperience jobber. She has less than five appearance where she actually uses tp in a fight, and almost always loses badly in those very few appearances. And judges notice that Nightshade’s mind wasn’t closed shut to being read or from a mental assault. It was just Pravda was too feeble to continue probing. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/pravda/4005-47052/
Below the Enchantress effortlessly resists Pravda’s tp and koes her, almost killing her.
So Nightshade resisting Pravda trying to read her mind isn’t impressive at all. Pravda is really just canon fodder. Judges this would be like someone believing that since Killer Croc’s punches didn’t hurt them, that they can tank Superman’s punches too. But of course there are levels to super strength just like there are levels to being a telepath. And Psylocke is an extremely high end telepath.
The Shadow King called Psylocke “as powerful as any psychic on the planet.”
Not just talk either as she's got a history of breaking through mental defenses.
From those with psi-shields where she has to break through fear and total darkness of the abyss to read their minds.
Psylocke has broken through the mental protections of people like classic Juggernaut (thought impossible at the time) and Fantomex who has resisted tp attacks from Pro. X and Emma Frost. Judges please notice how in the last scan below, Psylocke quickly and easily puts the entire room full of mutants asleep via tp, including Fantomex and Cable.
Wolverine, Sabretooth, Mystique, and others fell prey despite their psychic guards. Nightshade’s one instance of resisting a low power, inexperience, and frail psychic is no defense to Psylocke’s omega level TP. Even an Apocalypse death seed amped Archangel with well-guarded tp defenses was swiftly defeated by Psylocke’s TP. lol This is such a mismatch, Nightshade has no Tp defenses close to the level needed to defend against Psylocke’s TP.
Lol I’m starting to think that our friend Alberto doesn’t know how telepathy works. I think he believes a psychic has to physically touch a brain in order to attack it. Plus Psylocke has a little something called her psychic knife which is pretty hax and is itself intangible being comprised of her total mental energies. Her psychic knife has affected incorporeal entities like Cassandra Nova, Malice the marauder, and Proteus. Therefore, Nightshade’s shadow form is no defense against it, and she will suffer the same fate of being koed from it. Like Rogue said when she borrowed Psylocke’s psychic knife to remove Proteus from the possessed X-men, “This sword cuts spirit not flesh.”
Basically everything else from Alberto can be sum up like so. Effective use of Nightshade power, the shadow constructs and such all requires time and great concentration from her. Time and concentration are two things that she does not have in this matchup.
Making shadow creatures and specifically shadow giants takes a toll out of her, and weakens her severely when she is not in the shadow lands. Of course we are on earth so she will not be operating at that level of power in this matchup.
From the start she will be under an immense psychic attack from Psylocke, and will be blitzed by the Gorgon with the godkiller sword. Her speed and reaction times are definitely below Gorgon and Psylocke’s.
Gorgon has killed Phobos and Psylocke has defeated the Shadow King in the astral plane.
My team has no fear of darkness or nightmares, b/c they are nightmares to their opponents.
My team does not rely on just eyesight to fight.lol Gorgon fights “blind” for fun.
Psylocke omega level tp is too much for Nightshade.
My opponent has no answer for Gorgon’s speed and skill with the godkiller sword.
My plan is still completely intact from the OP .
Obviously we both agree that Daredevil is out of his league and pretty useless here.
Read your scan again, It says "PROMETHEIUM is capable of absorbing most any type of energy" That's a specific feat for prometheium, two different entirely sword with properties. infact you'd need to actually show the godkiller sword absorbing at all
Pravda is able to use her tp to **** w/ the brains of jet fighter pilots so she’s has the capacity to attack the minds of individuals going as fast as jets.
This was a cool battle. this battle was over from jump. I showed over and over that I can use my mental attacks, Shadow attacks, porting attacks, lack of scent, movement speed and tactic that all trumped my opponent. My opponent showed no way of finding me or locating my team. He had no type of senses or powers that is able to detect anyone in this city. . I proved I can create shadows and they can act on their own and without my help.
WOW your entire last post is beyond LOL worthy. Where to begin, well first all of “your Pravda” scans comes from the The Programme 12 issue limited series by Wildstorm in 2007. In other words “your Pravda” is a completely different character published by a completely different company lol. That’s why “your Pravda” is able to bend the fabric of reality and send those fighter jets back in time to 1953. Alberto doesn’t even know what’s really going on in his own scans lol.
So judges needlessly to say that the following scans are completely irrelevant to this battle and are to be completely ignored.
So far we have establish that the only one having a nightmare from this brutal battle beatdown will be Alberto. And since the two teams start only 20 yards apart, speed is a huge factor here. And not only do I have a significant advantage with the speed of thought telepathy attacks, but also my team’s reaction and attack speed is so much greater than my opponents.
Psylocke is so fast that she can run on metal shrapnel being hurled at her by Magneto, taking him down in the process.
However, Lashina in her “Duchess” persona and Poison Ivy were able to get the drop on Nightshade. Nightshade has normal human level reactions time and speed. Gorgon and Psylocke will be able to attack her before she can create one shadow construct. Even if she was able to make some shadow constructs, those slow moving lumbering things would be easily avoided by my team, or Psylocke will use her tk shields.
Plus Gorgon has taken a punch from an enraged Stonewall (Absorbing Man Jr) in giant-rock form. Gorgon wasn’t serious injured and continued to mock him, immediately getting right back into the fight. Gorgon is extremely hard to hurt and he possess an awesome healing factor. He can take whatever Nightshade can dished out, but she has been koed from normal punches by street levelers.
Psylocke can easily multitask, something that Alberto has not shown Nightshade to be capable of. Below she mentally attacks an opponent while physically assaulting another.
In conclusion this is a horrible matchup for Alberto’s team. Since there is no bfr, the major ability of Nightshade which is teleportation is rendered largely useless. Her power to cover the battlefield in darkness means nothing against two psychics who will rely on telepathy to “see” with their mind, and not on eyesight.
LOL What? Did you even read the OP which we agreed too? We start in Gotham Football Stadium on the field 20 yards apart. And the very first thing I do is use tp on you. But I don’t have to scan for you, b/c I know actually where you are at the start.
But anyway Psylocke when she was much weaker before numerous upgrades was able to mentally scan an entire island, while on board the X-jet. She located and identified ever person on the island.
Lol So yeah finding you if needed is not a problem, and really it’s a part of my initial first move in controlling your mind.
Nightmares from Nightshade means nothing when Psylocke has defeated the Shadow King, and kept him imprison in her mind for years. She has face her fears many times and was still able to beat him in the astral plane at his most powerful. She had him at her mercy and could had killed him.
No they didn’t, her shadow construct crumbled to pieces. And it doesn’t even take much light to do it, as seen below Nightshade becomes powerless under two spotlights lol. Her teammates had to shoot the lights out for her to regain power.
And there are plenty of bright lights in the football stadium where we are at. It wouldn’t take much for Psylocke to use tk to turn them on. There are a lot of ways for me to win this battle, but the most straightforward is with mind control via telepathy. And Gorgon’s godkiller sword which has also hurt the absorbing man junior, who was unable to absorb its godly properties. Nightshade doesn’t stand a chance against it, and Daredevil is a sitting duck since Alberto choose not to use him at all lol.
Thanks to Galan for hosting and to the judges. This was a satisfying battle.
lol Don't think I have forgotten about this comment Alberto. If you one day develop the testicular fortitude to bz me in a herald match, I'll be waiting.
Last edited by Supermutant on May 15th, 2019 at 03:42 AM
Supermutant showed how badly outclassed Daredevil is against Gorgon, and then provided proof that Nightshade can be telepathically controlled. Alberto tried providing some proof that Nightshade could hide, but not from a telepathic geniuys like Psylocke.
Overall, I found myself much more inclined with the idea that Nightshade would be taken over, and Daredevil dismembered.
And that wasn't because Alberto handled shade badly, just a hard fight and his team was on the losing side in feats and whatnot.
Overall well argued for both, but a decisive victory for Supermutant .