@Jmanghan: Oh, I definitely agree with pretty much everything you said there. And yeah, you're right that you don't really have to use magic to save the college from the evil mage & eye of magnus but you do need to at least use the staff of magnus to do it. I know any type of character can use a staff but it's more aligned with a mage-type character than any other type, imo.
I also wouldn't say that no one in Skyrim is grateful for all the helpful stuff you do. After defeating Alduin, for example, I've had several guards in different towns around the map give me the respect I deserved for doing it by basically telling me I've saved the world or whatever. It's pretty rare but it does happen from time to time.
I haven't played Oblivion yet but it would indeed be nice to get your own statue.
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Yeah, but you can be an uber powerful warrior with no magical skill above 25 and still beat all the quests. Why should such a person be made arch mage?
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__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
Haven't found much cause to switch from Assassin. Strength + Stamina is all you really need.
With Gale Harness and Fivefold Flurry/100 kisses, you're too busy killing anything that moves to ever worry about defense. Ninja Gaiden class, I call Assassin.
I can hire pawns for other vocations, or level Mule (My main pawn Mule, who carries all my stuff.)
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
This is one of the bigger problems I have with post-Morrowind Elder Scrolls games. By refusing to gate certain aspects of the game to certain characters it makes the game less immersive. A brutish retard should not be Archmage of the College of Winterhold, nor should a fragile flower bookworm be the Harbinger of the Companions.
I just used a mod to give me good stats generally.
Phuck forcing you to switch classes to min/max your stats, that's phucking gay in every game that does it. It was gay in Final Fantasy Tactics and it's gay in Dragon's Dogma.
Yeah, but stats are just a means to an end. I mean, if you don't care about magic (Which I don't), why level it?
Of course, if you were dabbling and weren't too sure on what you like, that's another story. That's what happened to me in Skyrim, where I ended up going through the Companians guild, after getting healing and destruction magic leveled, after grinding my sneak, after grinding my archery.
So I ended up constantly switching gear to conjure a flame minion, then to the crossbow, then to the sword and board, rinse repeat.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Isn't that the point behind classes though? It's been a staple since Final Fantasy 1.
Usually classes give you different stats.
I think it makes sense, why should I be great at magick if I've been using a 2-Handed greatsword for the entire game?
Why should I be a powerhouse in strength when I've been destroying my enemies with casting?
Wouldn't make much sense.
It would eliminate the point of having classes if there weren't benefits and consequences to each class, it'd remove a crucial part of the whole "role-playing" element.
Though I see your point don't forget that you don't have to do any quests related to the college if you don't want to. Iirc, none of those quests are related to the main quest so they're not required unless you really want the trophies associated w/them which you could always get in a different playthru of game if they're that important to you. If you are focused primarily on warrior skills and you think doing the college quests would break the immersion for you then simply don't do them.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Just wanted to update my thoughts on which game I like better of these two after I finally finished my first playthru of Skyrim last year. I can now say, without a shadow of a doubt, I like New Vegas MUCH more.
I like Skyrim, for sure, but it doesn't hold a candle to New Vegas, imo, other than much prettier scenery. NV is not exactly a game with breathtaking visuals lol. To be fair though, seeing how it is a post-apocalyptic game set in a desert it's not really supposed to be all that great looking.
It more than makes up for the boring landscape with superb RPG elements though and it blows Skyrim out of the water in that respect (I can't help but laugh at people who suggest that Skyrim is more of an RPG than FNV lol). That is where the game shines and why I love it so very much.
I plan on doing yet another playthru sometime this year probably before PS5 comes out. Oh yeah, that's another thing, I play on PS3 and yet I still love the game. No mods, constant freezing/lag after save file gets too big, and inferior graphics compared to PC but I'm willing to look past all that because the role-playing is so damn good.
One thing that I've completely flipped-on is the comments I made about the lore of the two games. Yes, as I said above, Elder Scrolls lore is much deeper than Fallout but I now think that's what makes Fallout lore better overall: it's simplicity. I can delve much deeper into Fallout lore and learn all the details much more thoroughly because there isn't nearly as much to learn.
Been watching a lot of You Tube videos over the past year on Fallout lore and reading a lot about it on the internet as well because I've been so interested in it. Skyrim lore just doesn't pull me in and get me addicted to it like Fallout lore does. I know many people will feel the opposite way but I really do personally enjoy Fallout lore much more than ES lore now. Maybe I felt the way I did about the respective lore of the two games when I posted above becaue Skyrim was my first intro into the ES series; it was all new to me and it piqued my interest for a while while I was playing but it's magic has all but worn-off on me now, mostly.
I also now think Fallout 3 beats Skyrim as well although it's not as good as FNV, imo. I probably rank NV as one of my top 3 videogames of all-time... and definitely my favorite RPG.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
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