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KingD19
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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
So?!


Do I need to spell it out? It's disrespectful to the amazing work Boseman churned out over several years and 4 movies while having cancer the entire time, which showed his dedication to the project and to the character. It's nothing like replacing Norton for Ruffalo because he got too big for his britches and thought he knew better than the producers and directors.

Or replacing Terrance Howard for Don Cheadle because Howard's agent screwed the pooch when it came to salary negotiations. He died wanting to keep playing the character but his time was simply up. But he embodied the character in a way no one else can or ever will, so simply trying to slap the Panther Habit on a different guy immediately after his death is not only f*cked up morally, but the movie(s) itself will suffer from the decision since the fanbase will be extremely upset.

At least if they use Shuri, it's a move everyone saw coming and will be okay with because the character of Shuri has taken over as Panther for T'Challa multiple times and as the last heir to the Wakandan Throne, it only makes sense for her to take over anyway. The Panther has always been the Warrior King of Wakanda, not just some rando wearing the suit and acting as a super powered bodyguard.

The only difference with Shuri is that she'd be the Warrior Queen, and while being potentially slightly less powerful overall as her slender female frame even with the Herb will lead to less of an increase because of biology, she is several times smarter than T'Challa and one of the smartest humans in MCU so she'd more than make up for it in ingenuity and gadgetry.

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Do I need to spell it out? It's disrespectful to the amazing work Boseman churned out over several years and 4 movies while having cancer the entire time, which showed his dedication to the project and to the character. It's nothing like replacing Norton for Ruffalo because he got too big for his britches and thought he knew better than the producers and directors.

Or replacing Terrance Howard for Don Cheadle because Howard's agent screwed the pooch when it came to salary negotiations. He died wanting to keep playing the character but his time was simply up. But he embodied the character in a way no one else can or ever will, so simply trying to slap the Panther Habit on a different guy immediately after his death is not only f*cked up morally, but the movie(s) itself will suffer from the decision since the fanbase will be extremely upset.

At least if they use Shuri, it's a move everyone saw coming and will be okay with because the character of Shuri has taken over as Panther for T'Challa multiple times and as the last heir to the Wakandan Throne, it only makes sense for her to take over anyway. The Panther has always been the Warrior King of Wakanda, not just some rando wearing the suit and acting as a super powered bodyguard.

The only difference with Shuri is that she'd be the Warrior Queen, and while being potentially slightly less powerful overall as her slender female frame even with the Herb will lead to less of an increase because of biology, she is several times smarter than T'Challa and one of the smartest humans in MCU so she'd more than make up for it in ingenuity and gadgetry.

While I agree w. you 100%, you gotta remember, some ppl, many ppl, simply do not give a single shit about things like honoring Boseman痴 memory.


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While I agree w. you 100%, you gotta remember, some ppl, many ppl, simply do not give a single shit about things like honoring Boseman痴 memory.


That's also true. A lot of people just wanna see a cool movie and don't care about the person at all. I think that with the insanely massive outpouring of support to him and his family after his passing means a much larger majority care than don't. Or I hope at least.

Like imagine if RDJ died and they just put some other guy in the Iron Man suit after he became that role? Or if Chris Evans died and they just put the Cap suit and shield on another rando for the very next movie?

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Dying offscreen sucks. Maybe if he stayed dead after Infinity War.

Being recast sucks, too.

...

No good ideas for this one. Shuri is not good enough to replace her brother in MCU.



wholeheartedly i agree


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Originally posted by KingD19
Do I need to spell it out? It's disrespectful to the amazing work Boseman churned out over several years and 4 movies while having cancer the entire time, which showed his dedication to the project and to the character. It's nothing like replacing Norton for Ruffalo because he got too big for his britches and thought he knew better than the producers and directors.

Or replacing Terrance Howard for Don Cheadle because Howard's agent screwed the pooch when it came to salary negotiations. He died wanting to keep playing the character but his time was simply up. But he embodied the character in a way no one else can or ever will, so simply trying to slap the Panther Habit on a different guy immediately after his death is not only f*cked up morally, but the movie(s) itself will suffer from the decision since the fanbase will be extremely upset.

At least if they use Shuri, it's a move everyone saw coming and will be okay with because the character of Shuri has taken over as Panther for T'Challa multiple times and as the last heir to the Wakandan Throne, it only makes sense for her to take over anyway. The Panther has always been the Warrior King of Wakanda, not just some rando wearing the suit and acting as a super powered bodyguard.

The only difference with Shuri is that she'd be the Warrior Queen, and while being potentially slightly less powerful overall as her slender female frame even with the Herb will lead to less of an increase because of biology, she is several times smarter than T'Challa and one of the smartest humans in MCU so she'd more than make up for it in ingenuity and gadgetry.


Disrespectful would be dumping the character by off screen death and replacing them with possibly the most annoying and 2nd most useless fighter from the Endgame final battle (Mantis being the most useless)

And no one's taking about replacing him NOW.

Build up the MCU with the newly acquired IP. Recast him a few years down the line.

Anyone pretending no one else can play the role is simply engaging in sycophantic hyperbole. His work prior to playing Black Panther is filled with mediocrity. Budget biopics no one cares about, utter trash like Gods of Egypt and bit parts in TV shows. He was never some phenomenal, irreplaceable talent. Pretending otherwise is just nonsense. The same thing happened with Heath Ledger when he died after playing The Joker. Like his back catalogue wasn't filled with utter dog shit and no one could play a better Joker. Then Joaquin Phoenix did.

Yahya Abdul-Mateen ii
John David Washington
Laz Alonso
Chiwetel Ejifor
Michael Jai White

Any of them could step into the role and do it justice without stepping on Boseman's supposed "legacy".


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He's got the look, the build and he's a trained MA, so that would help the fight choreography, but his acting is just honking bad.


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Don't exactly need Oscar worthy skills to play Black Panther.


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feige will sign kevin hart to be new t'challa


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Or an actual panther.


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That's also true. A lot of people just wanna see a cool movie and don't care about the person at all.

Yeah, I just saw an example of that. stick out tongue


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I知 almost certain they値l write an in universe death and cast Shuri


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^^^if only Bane had gotten as much closure.


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I知 almost certain they値l write an in universe death and cast Shuri


they might not.. becides kevin hart MUST be new T'Challa or New MCU Logan


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Disrespectful would be dumping the character by off screen death and replacing them with possibly the most annoying and 2nd most useless fighter from the Endgame final battle (Mantis being the most useless)

And no one's taking about replacing him NOW.

Build up the MCU with the newly acquired IP. Recast him a few years down the line.

Anyone pretending no one else can play the role is simply engaging in sycophantic hyperbole. His work prior to playing Black Panther is filled with mediocrity. Budget biopics no one cares about, utter trash like Gods of Egypt and bit parts in TV shows. He was never some phenomenal, irreplaceable talent. Pretending otherwise is just nonsense. The same thing happened with Heath Ledger when he died after playing The Joker. Like his back catalogue wasn't filled with utter dog shit and no one could play a better Joker. Then Joaquin Phoenix did.

Yahya Abdul-Mateen ii
John David Washington
Laz Alonso
Chiwetel Ejifor
Michael Jai White

Any of them could step into the role and do it justice without stepping on Boseman's supposed "legacy".


****ing thank you thank you thank you. Quit sucking these entertainers dicks like they all had you personally in mind when they jumped into the role

The actor died. Sad. So did millions of others and life must carry on. Either give Shuri a movie based on her finding someone to replace her brother or a canon comic story or just chill and recast. It's gonna be ok

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they might not.. becides kevin hart MUST be new T'Challa or New MCU Logan

I知 holding out for Kevin Hart as The Hypno Hustler. A chance for him to chew some scenery, and a big seventies era fro and platform shoes to get him up to five feet or so...!


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I知 holding out for Kevin Hart as The Hypno Hustler. A chance for him to chew some scenery, and a big seventies era fro and platform shoes to get him up to five feet or so...!



lol definitely


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So WWE star Becky Lynch is in the cast playing a mercenary. My gut feeling is, she's playing Shanna.

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So WWE star Becky Lynch is in the cast playing a mercenary. My gut feeling is, she's playing Shanna.

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That壇 be interesting casting if true!

I was ranting a few months ago on how they should do a Ka-Zar movie, so anything that might get that closer to maybe happening I support.


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